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Post by Pottyal October 22nd 2018, 5:54 pm

Does anybody know the age, make and pattern of this porcelain teacup?
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Post by NaomiM October 22nd 2018, 7:39 pm

I believe it’s Hilditch porcelain, early to mid 1800s

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Post by Pottyal October 22nd 2018, 11:17 pm

Many thanks NaomiM
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Post by NaomiM October 23rd 2018, 2:17 am

I think the decoration is from sets of prints that follow a religious and or charitable theme. Maybe meant for use on Sundays

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Post by Pottyal October 23rd 2018, 12:44 pm

Thanks for that NaomiM I think your right. I've been researching the pattern and I think it could be the horn of plenty pattern as she seems to be holding something in her hand.
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Post by user9318 October 24th 2018, 8:07 am

Defintely by Hilditch, the cup shape is known as the "London shape".

Occasionally some were marked / backstamped H&S and only produced wares between 1822 -1830, sorry, I sort of ended up collecting the odd Hilditch piece over the last 10 years. Nice find :)
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Post by Pottyal October 24th 2018, 1:11 pm

Many thanks user9318 for the information. I have 2 cups of this patttern and both of them have a few nibbles on the edge and handle which I've assumed were done in manufacturing process as the nibbles are under the glaze and print. I was wondering whether you had noticed anything like this on yours?
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Post by NaomiM October 24th 2018, 2:38 pm

I have found that Hilditch china is of a lower quality than its contemporaries

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Post by user9318 October 25th 2018, 9:09 am

I have found the same on some of mine Pottyal and as Naomi says, it is lower quality, but I like the cup design, the patterns and colours.
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Post by Essenjay October 25th 2018, 3:26 pm

Sorry to be the fly in the ointment but I don't really agree with the Hilditch attribution. While Hilditch did use the London shape, that style was pretty common in Regency porcelain. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the band under the prints and the internal decoration are pink lustre which Hilditch rarely used; most likely another Staffordshire factory (I don't know enough about Sunderland lustre to make the suggestion). It's quite interesting to see the two different prints on either side which I would imagine would have made it more expensive to produce. The subject matter is typically Regency - you see examples of similar bat-printed patterns of mothers and children, reflecting a fashion for the art of painter Adam Buck.
Finally, I'd have to disagree about the quality, Naomi. Hilditch for the most part produced middling quality teaware, better than many of their contemporaries. However, some of their later Rockingham Ware-style dessert and tea wares were comparable in quality to the best factories. They supplied to some of the top retailers according to the Hilditch Porcelain book.
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Post by NaomiM October 25th 2018, 8:56 pm

I think the attribution with these teacups is mainly based on the handle shape so it’s very likely there were several Potteries copying each other, just as with New Hall / Keeling / etc

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