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Post by Alex_s October 26th 2012, 6:23 am

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This is a lovely thing, around 1ft high. Reptiles, fungi, insects and a frog on the other side, all luminous and drawn with some skill and a degree of humour.

No mark on the base, but the initials - I think - WWS on the side. Anyone got any ideas?

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Post by Alex_s October 31st 2012, 4:24 pm

Anyone? Help! Can't find out a single thing about this.
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Post by NaomiM October 31st 2012, 4:30 pm

It's beautiful. Reminds me of Royal Doulton's Kingsware. Is there any way that signature could read "Charles Noke"?

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Post by Alex_s October 31st 2012, 4:44 pm

I can see your thinking there. But isn't the subject a little off-brand for Kingsware? I was initially reminded of the Martin Brothers, but they did salt glaze and sgraffito. Besides, I don't have the sort of luck to stumble on a Martin piece! I also thought Japanese style, but there are no Japanese characters. Then I thought Arts and Crafts, because there was Japanese influence there. But somehow it feels more modern than that. I dunno. Hopefully it's a sleeper!
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Post by NaomiM October 31st 2012, 5:15 pm

Martins ware for subject matter and Noke for technique. Happy
Brannam did weird stuff, but not in that technique.
Could it be by Edmund Elton?

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Post by Alex_s October 31st 2012, 5:26 pm

I don't think Elton. More like Brannam, I suppose, but I don't think it's that either. But what do the damn initials mean, and why no mark? Can't believe a piece as good as this is so hard to identify.
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Post by Potty October 31st 2012, 10:05 pm

With a base like that I think we can rule out both Doulton and Martin Brothers.

I think it's likely to be continental and I do like it Most Excellent


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Post by bistoboy October 31st 2012, 10:14 pm

have to say, i couldn't see WWS, but more like Wells.
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Post by Potty October 31st 2012, 10:31 pm

Or maybe even "Will S", as the S at the end seems to be a capital letter.

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Post by bistoboy October 31st 2012, 10:35 pm

did william staite murray ever sign "will S" ??? would be an amazing find if he did, and if this fits his early style? don't know enough about him myself
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Post by Potty October 31st 2012, 11:20 pm

I'd have said this vase itself is molded (is it?), so we can rule out most studio potters I think.

Also this vase looks to be made from white earthenware.

I suspect the vase was made in a factory and is signed by the decorator.


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Post by NaomiM November 1st 2012, 1:42 am

The Germans were copying Kingsware in the 1930s, (and the Japanese in the 1950s). Germans also used white earthenware, however there would be a small patent mark printed on the base.

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Post by Alex_s November 1st 2012, 2:45 pm

Okay, great info. So, there's the faint suggestion of a seam down each side, so I guess that means moulded. It does seem to be white earthen ware, so I might go down the German route. Perhaps a German copy of something Japanese then.
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