Wilkinson
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Re: Wilkinson
In 15 years of collecting Wilkinson I have only come across 5 in all these 3 are miniature shape #177 vases
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
As promised Oriflamme with a dragon, I think it has onglaze slip or enemals under the gilt to try and give it a 3D effect.
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
Hi Dan, not sure why this pair never got finished but they show that the fish were added last......
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
On these examples you will note that the Oriflamme is applied horizontally, with swirls etc towards the base, the blue one is signed by Ridgeway note the white enamels to give the wave crests. The green one is by John Butler, and has the waves outlined in gilt and stars in the sky to try and cover blow holes in the glaze from previous firings.
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
Nik the collector wrote:
In 15 years of collecting Wilkinson I have only come across 5 in all these 3 are miniature shape #177 vases
are these Tibetan range?
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Re: Wilkinson
Nik the collector wrote:
The range is Rubaiyat, the vase on the left is the most common found (but not often), the vase in the centre is only the 2nd I know to have Iris flowers in the design, the vase on the right has Crocus flowers and I know of one other in Australia.
were transfers used on this range?
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Re: Wilkinson
No transfers on any of it -all freehand proper art pottery from the studio of John Butler, glad you like it.....
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
Dan the 3 wilkinson miniatures are all Tibetan, I have been lucky enough to buy 5, a miniature in pink with a letter saying it was a gift from Clarice Cliff saw it fetch £600 + fees at christies in 1988 or 1989, the larger ones fetch upto and sometimes over £1000 at christies!!
Rubaiyat is always entirely handpainted as are the oriental ladies, these are generally over looked by the big auction houses and most dealers and collectors don't realise they are signed!!
Rubaiyat is always entirely handpainted as are the oriental ladies, these are generally over looked by the big auction houses and most dealers and collectors don't realise they are signed!!
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Re: Wilkinson
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Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
This is the tahiti range.
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Re: Wilkinson
5 inch bowl
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Re: Wilkinson
dantheman wrote:
3 inch miniature vase
incised mark of coppilli ?
do you know what coppilli signifies Nik?
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Re: Wilkinson
No idea, I have a couple with the same impressed mark, Colley Shorter was known to have bought moulds and designs from other factories as they closed. This shape was part of the shape no.177 series of miniature vases on the 1924 shape sheet, 9 are illustrated but I have 14 different miniature vase shapes. If the mould was bought in then it could be the shape name used by the original manufacturer. Another possibility is that it was meant to have a translucent copper lustre glaze over the Oriflamme, without checking I think mine are opal with a copper coloured lustre finish.
As for 'stealing' the bowl, that was the sort of thing I was getting at in the ebay ending early thread, I start mine at the price I want or previousley paid, I sort of feel sorry for sellers of Oriflamme when I don't bid and it sells for a low price...LOL I am getting a bit bored of it now as there are not many special pieces turning up, I have been collecting it for 15 years and all I want to find now are the pieces I have read about in reviews of the 1924 Wembley exhibition.
As for 'stealing' the bowl, that was the sort of thing I was getting at in the ebay ending early thread, I start mine at the price I want or previousley paid, I sort of feel sorry for sellers of Oriflamme when I don't bid and it sells for a low price...LOL I am getting a bit bored of it now as there are not many special pieces turning up, I have been collecting it for 15 years and all I want to find now are the pieces I have read about in reviews of the 1924 Wembley exhibition.
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
Did you see my pics of what I have now christened as my toilet seat vase - any ideas??
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
They are very beautiful, are they just marked Wilkinson
DIANE- Number of posts : 163
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Re: Wilkinson
Do you mean the Oriflamme Diane? 95% of Oriflamme has a special backstamp which includes the Patent number.
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Re: Wilkinson
do you own any Oriflamme catalogues Nik?
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Re: Wilkinson
Hi Dan, no unfortunately, why have you been lucky enough to find one? If you have is it for sale? I do have a page from a magazine somewhere showing a vase as an award winner, and there is a set of cigarette cards from the 1920's that has 2 Wilkinson vases, 1 Oriflamme and 1 in Tibetan. I also have somewhere a photocopy of a review of the 1924 Wembley Exhibition where it mentions a vase so big it was made in 2 parts - in Oriflamme covered in Dragons - it was on a plinth in a central walkway, this has not been seen since the mid 1920's.
There was a catalogue in the Leeds Library archive but it is believed that because noone asked to view it for 3 years it was removed and sold, along with a lot of other items.
I do have a couple of late 1930's Crown Devon catalogues and a couple of Royal Doulton ones, but they are more easily found.
There was a catalogue in the Leeds Library archive but it is believed that because noone asked to view it for 3 years it was removed and sold, along with a lot of other items.
I do have a couple of late 1930's Crown Devon catalogues and a couple of Royal Doulton ones, but they are more easily found.
Nik the collector- Number of posts : 87
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Re: Wilkinson
I don't have one but if Leeds library had one they must be out there
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Details of John Butler
dantheman wrote:Welcome Ian,
I have searched the internet several times for such info and would love to hear from you if you ever find any
I have been doing some searching on ancestry.co.uk and bingo!!
Full Name: John Thomas Couper
Born: January 1872.
I have the census records, marriage details etc and everything cross checks OK.
If you need more send me an email at iancouper1@gmail.com
Thanks,
Ian
Ian
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Re: Wilkinson
5 inch bowl
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AmbestonWare and Oriflamme
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Re: Wilkinson
the most sought after Oriflame pieces are those with creatures added to the normal Oriflamme decor but are all these pieces seconds with the imperfections covered up?
here's what Clarice Cliff had to say
"In the early 1920's I had progressed as for as modelling in clay, keeping pattern and shape books up to date, very fine filigree gilding with a pen, tracing spiders webs, butterflies, etc., to hide small imperfections on expensive ware, at A. J. Wilkinson Limited, The Royal Staffordshire Pottery, Burslem. During this time I gained useful knowledge of the making and firing of pottery."
here's what Clarice Cliff had to say
"In the early 1920's I had progressed as for as modelling in clay, keeping pattern and shape books up to date, very fine filigree gilding with a pen, tracing spiders webs, butterflies, etc., to hide small imperfections on expensive ware, at A. J. Wilkinson Limited, The Royal Staffordshire Pottery, Burslem. During this time I gained useful knowledge of the making and firing of pottery."
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