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shanentracey- Number of posts : 1
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by NaomiM April 14th 2013, 10:46 pm
It'sa bit fuzzy. Looks like a number to me.
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by studio-pots April 14th 2013, 10:50 pm
Welcome to the Forum shanentracey.
Your vase is Japanese and what is known as Satuma ware, which was by and large made for export to the West from the late 19th century to the present day. It is not easy to date items like this, especially from pictures, but I would guess that it is probably from the 1920s/1930s or even later. I don't think that the mark would identify a factory but seems the type of mark added because someone buying a pot would expect it to have a mark.
Your vase is Japanese and what is known as Satuma ware, which was by and large made for export to the West from the late 19th century to the present day. It is not easy to date items like this, especially from pictures, but I would guess that it is probably from the 1920s/1930s or even later. I don't think that the mark would identify a factory but seems the type of mark added because someone buying a pot would expect it to have a mark.
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by Potty April 14th 2013, 11:44 pm
Well... I'm going to partially disagree with SP! 
I think this vase is probably much later, my guess is sometime in the last quarter of the 20th century.
It's Japanese Satsuma in style, but may be a copy from China.
Just my opinion
I think this vase is probably much later, my guess is sometime in the last quarter of the 20th century.
It's Japanese Satsuma in style, but may be a copy from China.
Just my opinion
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by NaomiM April 15th 2013, 12:11 am
I would need photos that were in focus to be able to comment.
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by studio-pots April 15th 2013, 8:04 am
Potty wrote:Well... I'm going to partially disagree with SP!
I think this vase is probably much later, my guess is sometime in the last quarter of the 20th century.
It's Japanese Satsuma in style, but may be a copy from China.
Just my opinion
You could well be correct Potty, as the Satsuma wares that I've seen do tend to have Japanese character marks on the base.
I suppose to answer the question at the top of the thread though it does mean that the vase is of no real value.
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by Potty April 15th 2013, 9:49 am
It's a decorative and useful vase either way 
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by NaomiM April 15th 2013, 11:42 am
I suppose to answer the question at the top of the thread though it does mean that the vase is of no real value.
Big assumption to make based on very poor quality photos.
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by Potty April 15th 2013, 11:58 am
I think it's justified and the pictures show enough to be honest, I'll go and hide under a table now 
Value is relative anyway, I've got plenty of items of low commercial value that I'd not part with Hopefully the poster likes their vase as much as I like my items of similar value 
Value is relative anyway, I've got plenty of items of low commercial value that I'd not part with
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Re: what does this stamp/mark mean
by NaomiM April 15th 2013, 12:26 pm
Searching for hand painted (assuming it is) Satsuma ware (assuming it's original Japanese rather than a later Chinese copy) on completed listings on ebay, then the vases making the money are the ones with the original Seto seal mark on the base. The rest are going for anything from £0 to £xx. Very few going for over £50.
Depends on what one's definition of 'real value' is.
Depends on what one's definition of 'real value' is.
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