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Post by kgldsun April 25th 2013, 5:55 pm

I am hoping somebody can tell me a little about my vase which was a gift to me over 20 years ago from a Morroccan in Tangiers.
The marking on the base appears to be an inscribed 11p. The remainder of the vase I would egress is hand painted.
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Post by NaomiM April 25th 2013, 6:29 pm

Looks like a Japanese vase maybe Arita-ware, made for export. If it's hand-painted, or (transfer printed and hand coloured) rather than screen printed I would estimate 1900-1920s.
I don't know why it would have 11p on the base.

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Post by studio-pots April 25th 2013, 6:46 pm

I think Naomi's right but because of the small image it is difficult to see if it is hand painted or not. A larger image would help but it could well have been new when you received it.

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Post by kgldsun April 25th 2013, 7:34 pm

Thank you to both. Some more pics to help.
Yes, I now have to agree with the transfer print, due to the fact identical pictures on opposite sides appear to be in different positions, as though displaced. The colours then appears to have been drawn or outlined around in gold. This opinion is derived from it appears raised and this can be scratched off although the main colours cannot. The tiny 'dots' also on opposite patterns are also raised.
I doubt it was new somehow when I received it as it was in the family home complete with reeds, which they passed to me. As you can imagine, this was a poor family.
Although not wanting to part with the vase, I am keen to know its origin and if it holds any value.


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Post by NaomiM April 25th 2013, 7:38 pm

These vases have been made for over a century so it's difficult to date it. If it had a pottery or country mark on the base I'd say post-war. The colours are very bright so not 19th Century. Might be 1930s.

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Post by Potty April 28th 2013, 6:19 am

I'd have said last half of the 20th century, Chinese or other far east. Though personally I have doubt's about it being Japanese. Shrugs

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Post by NaomiM April 28th 2013, 11:34 am

It's possible, but the shape - with the broad, wavey, rim - is seen in Arita ware. It doesn't seem the right colour pallet for Chinese. And if it's post-war, with the communists in power its more likely to be from Hong Kong or Japan rather than mainland China. And if it was that recent I'd expect it to have an ink export stamp on the base. These 'clobbered' over decorated pieces were common in the earlier part of the century.

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Post by NaomiM April 28th 2013, 11:42 am

As for value, without an emperor's reign mark, or good maker's mark, the value is purely as a decorator's piece. And the bigger they are the more they sell for. I've seen these listed with a boxfull of other items at local auction for £30-£50. On ebay similar sorts of vases have gone unsold.

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Post by Potty April 28th 2013, 1:18 pm

NaomiM wrote:It's possible, but the shape - with the broad, wavey, rim - is seen in Arita ware. It doesn't seem the right colour pallet for Chinese. And if it's post-war, with the communists in power its more likely to be from Hong Kong or Japan rather than mainland China. And if it was that recent I'd expect it to have an ink export stamp on the base. These 'clobbered' over decorated pieces were common in the earlier part of the century.

We'll have to agree to disagree Excellent I'm no expert, but would be very surprised if this were from the early 20th century.

Could be mass produced from Japan, just the decoration just looks more like someone's attempt to imitate Japanese ceramics.


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