Gold Painted vase, Carstens, West Germany

Sry not the greatest pictures, but to save me trawling through every picture in the German thread can anyone tell me which company used a painted gold West-Germany mark?





Does have shape number 450-?

thanks

best guess so far is Dumler and Breiden

D&B used a white Body Clay , so I'd rule them out , Carstens Might Be a possibiltity they often used 4 figure form numbers and red clay , Volker may be of more help.

Carstens is correct. 1950s,

thanks to you both