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Post by NaomiM October 10th 2013, 1:57 pm

Student piece.

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Post by bistoboy October 10th 2013, 5:16 pm

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Post by beedragon October 10th 2013, 5:21 pm

What is IHO?
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Post by bistoboy October 10th 2013, 5:40 pm

in her opinion
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Post by NaomiM October 10th 2013, 5:41 pm

bistoboy wrote:in her opinion
- As it says on the bottom of my post.

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Post by bistoboy October 10th 2013, 5:48 pm

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Post by sunnyices2 October 10th 2013, 6:10 pm

just curious to ask this question... what is a student piece? does it mean all dated item is a student piece?
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Post by studio-pots October 10th 2013, 6:36 pm

Naomi can correct me if I'm wrong but by that I believe she means that it is not a professional maker but either someone just beginning to pot or someone doing it as a hobby rather than as a living. They do tend to scratch their initials into the clay rather than use a stamp and do sometimes add the date.

Having the date on a pot is sometimes done by professional potters too so the date does not mean that the potter who made the pot is a student, amateur or hobby potter, whichever term you wish to give to someone who is making pots other than professionally.

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Post by climberg64 October 10th 2013, 7:10 pm

I understand that quite a few demobbed servicemen became potters after WW2. It might be one of them. I'd keep it as a piece of social history.
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Post by sunnyices2 October 11th 2013, 7:52 am

Thanks you Climberg64 for the information
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Post by tenpot October 11th 2013, 8:58 am

climberg64 wrote:I understand that quite a few demobbed servicemen became potters after WW2. It might be one of them. I'd keep it as a piece of social history.
sounds like a bargain hunt punt , prisoners of war maybe? As to the pot pretty competant throwing despite scruffy sig
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Post by NaomiM October 11th 2013, 11:39 am

climberg64 wrote:I understand that quite a few demobbed servicemen became potters after WW2. It might be one of them. I'd keep it as a piece of social history.
More like something done in a rehab ward. Tbh, I'm not seeing the quality here, in the form or the choice of glaze. If it was dated 1960s then it would make more sense, but not back in the 40s, not unless it had someone like Henry Moore or Stanley Spencer's monogram.

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Post by sunnyices2 October 11th 2013, 12:13 pm

i'd stick with tenpot and climberg64 opinion because it make sense while it been marked and dated.... i have seen something like this date and marks on a vessel sold at ebay for over 400 pounds and the quality isn't as good as this one... more like a sculpture drinking vessel very shapeless... the seller did some research and am guessing he found out the maker was either prisoners of walls or demobbed services men.. so i'd done some research in military area
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Post by big ed October 11th 2013, 3:16 pm

A lot of clutching at straws here imo , Sunny -pots at £400 +are usually that for a reason , unfortunately this isn't one of them .
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Post by climberg64 October 12th 2013, 2:21 am

It's just that in 1946 (serious post war austerity) there wouldn't have been pottery evening classes nor had the fad for potting as a hobby started yet. The person who made it was most likely learning a trade to try and make a living.
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Post by studio-pots October 12th 2013, 9:51 am

During the War and up until 1953 the Potteries and ceramic factories elsewhere in the UK were not able to produce decorated wares for home consumption so there was a great interest in having pottery that wasn't white.

There were classes all over the country and probably more of a desire to make something for personal use than there is now. These classes would no doubt include ex-servicemen but certainly not exclusively and some, who attended these classes, probably went onto making a living from making pots. Most didn't and the work they did was by and large very amateur. To say that work like the vase here is worth money is ridiculous.

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Post by tenpot October 12th 2013, 10:17 am

I don't think anyone suggested it might be worth money , just that it might be historically interesting ,dated pieces give food for thought
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Post by sunnyices2 October 13th 2013, 5:34 pm

Thanks guys for the information...
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