Brentleigh? English Vase - possibly Howard Pottery Ltd of Shelton

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Post by Dannd October 22nd 2013, 4:22 am

Hello!

I initially thought it was some student paint job on a general blank but after analyzing the bottom it seems to be something a bit more. Unfortunately I've literally drawn a blank on any more information concerning this vase. Its marked 1523 (design code?) MADE IN ENGLAND and impressed with a 234 (shape code?). Has anyone seen anything like this type of pottery before? Thank you for your time!

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Post by NaomiM October 22nd 2013, 9:00 am

We've had something like this before; a jug, I think. Radford, maybe?

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Post by studio-pots October 22nd 2013, 10:17 am

I think that it comes from one of the many factories in the Potteries during the 1930s that were producing wares based on popular themes of the time but for the cheaper end of the market. They tended to use a inexpensive clay body and not re-fire after decorating.

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Post by NaomiM October 22nd 2013, 10:28 am

Someone posted a vase or jug a while back that had been over painted, and wanted advice on removing the paint. I'm fairly sure it was a similar date and make to this one.

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Post by Dannd October 24th 2013, 7:26 pm

Thank you both for your help as always! The "MADE IN ENGLAND" part is painted with the same gold paint that the rims/decoration is done in so Im assuming this was the factory state as it was originally sold although its hard to tell as there is a large chip on the foot rim which has been repainted over with the exact tone of gold.
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Post by Redware October 26th 2013, 3:58 pm

NaomiM wrote:Someone posted a vase or jug a while back that had been over painted, and wanted advice on removing the paint. I'm fairly sure it was a similar date and make to this one.
I think you meant my wadenheath jug https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10988-55-in-diamond-mark-please-help-with-id  Naomi but I that impressed number looks a bit different. The date would be about right though.
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Post by NaomiM October 26th 2013, 5:09 pm

Yes, Thanks Redware. I wondered if any of the wrong attributions might apply to this vase.

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Post by Redware October 26th 2013, 5:53 pm

Not sure but i would go with studio-pots, the decoration is probably original but not re fired so rubbed off eventually. I have one piece that is decorated in similar way, i.e the painting seems to be rubbing off  Brentleigh? English Vase - possibly Howard Pottery Ltd of Shelton 693037947_o
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Post by Dannd October 28th 2013, 3:55 pm

Redware, whats the origin/date of your piece? I can definitely see some similarities. Does it have impression marks on the bottom as mine? (PS I love the shape of your piece!) Thank you all for your input!
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Post by Redware October 28th 2013, 5:44 pm

I haven't been able to identify my piece yet :) I'll post a new thread tonight so we both may learn that.
I would think that both pieces are of similar age, 1930s.
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Post by Dannd October 28th 2013, 5:59 pm

It's funny how researching one piece of pottery leads to the ID of another you've be stuck with! After looking at the link you provided Redware to your example of Wade heath I did a little search for vases and came across quite a few with very similar designs/impressed number marks on the bottom.

As I was looking this up, I came across a vase in my search that matched my other one I was looking for an ID for and I believe it's a Ditmar Urbach piece.

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t13216-blue-vase-stoneware

Thank you all for your help! This board is definitely a very constructive learning environment.
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Post by studio-pots October 29th 2013, 10:13 pm

Regarding your "Strange English Vase" I have left the following on Redware's thread for his vase above, which is relevant to your vase as well: -

One such company that made this type of product was Howard Pottery Ltd of Shelton, who used the trade name Brentleigh Ware. This was impressed on the base with Made in England as well but I would not be surprised if they didn't produce the same product unmarked (except for England, which was legally require if exported) for wholesalers.

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