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Chris Carter
An interesting small vase 11cm tall with geometric pattern. Impressed CC on base. Interestingly the outside glaze is reflected inside the vase. I have seen similar but can't remember if it was on this site or flea bay.
Inside of vase
Can anyone identify please?
Inside of vase
Can anyone identify please?
fixit_bear- Number of posts : 137
Location : Leicestershire UK
Registration date : 2008-04-19
Re: Chris Carter
Chris Carter's early CC mark: 1971-86
Atherstone, Warks.
Atherstone, Warks.
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Re: Chris Carter
Well Yates-Owen has 3 marks for him and this appears to be one of them. Several pieces with this mark on ebay recently.
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Shiny slightly flattened vase - Chris Carter
Does anyone recognise this mark please
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Re: Chris Carter
Thanks Naomi with your help I've managed to find it in the book : ) Chris Carter 87-91
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small pots marked CC - Chris Carter
Any help with the identification of maker would be most appreciated on these two pieces...both marked CC
merlin- Number of posts : 60
Location : leicester
Registration date : 2017-11-08
Re: Chris Carter
Many thanks Naomi.
I had thought Chris Carter but the only reference mark i found was obviously more modern as the letters CC had serifs.
Presuming this mark is from an earlier piece of his work...any idea of when it might have been made?
60's or 70's...?
I only picked them up a couple of days ago from a car boot sale as i thought they were very attractive!
I had thought Chris Carter but the only reference mark i found was obviously more modern as the letters CC had serifs.
Presuming this mark is from an earlier piece of his work...any idea of when it might have been made?
60's or 70's...?
I only picked them up a couple of days ago from a car boot sale as i thought they were very attractive!
merlin- Number of posts : 60
Location : leicester
Registration date : 2017-11-08
Re: Chris Carter
Yes, his early mark. Used from 1971-86, although the Marks book doesnt distinguish between the two CC marks during that time.
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Re: Chris Carter
Thank you again Naomi...you are so helpful...!
merlin- Number of posts : 60
Location : leicester
Registration date : 2017-11-08
Incised CC, intriguing triangular inset - Chris Carter
I'm intrigued by the triangular sections on either side of this 8" high pot. At first I thought it was achieved by masking off the area with wax, but looking closer the sides of the triangle at the apex continue under the glaze, very faintly, which suggests that the shape was lightly incised as a guide for cutting out a section.
I would still have assumed that it was simply a masked-off area except the triangle is also visible on the inside of the pot. That part was hard to photograph, it looks like shadow, but the impression I get is that the base and two triangular sections were made seperately from the rest of the pot then joined together. To my mind, that seems to be a lot of work to achieve the final look when masking the triangular areas and base before dipping in the white glaze would be a lot quicker.
So, who is CC? and are my thoughts on how the pot was made anywhere within a mile of being correct?
I would still have assumed that it was simply a masked-off area except the triangle is also visible on the inside of the pot. That part was hard to photograph, it looks like shadow, but the impression I get is that the base and two triangular sections were made seperately from the rest of the pot then joined together. To my mind, that seems to be a lot of work to achieve the final look when masking the triangular areas and base before dipping in the white glaze would be a lot quicker.
So, who is CC? and are my thoughts on how the pot was made anywhere within a mile of being correct?
Grumpy Grandad- Number of posts : 867
Location : E. Midlands UK
Registration date : 2019-11-11
Re: Chris Carter
Would you not get those triangles by incompletely dipping in glaze twice - turning through 180 degrees between dips?
carolalev- Number of posts : 295
Location : Brecon Beacons
Registration date : 2019-03-17
Re: Chris Carter
Chris Carter has been potting since 1971 and this vase does have a feel of being from the 1970s. Therefore, as Naomi says, it could be by him.
He is still around and could be contacted.
However, if I was Chris Carter and got the image sent to me, I think I would deny it was mine, even if it was.
Nothing wrong with the making, just that it is so dated.
He is still around and could be contacted.
However, if I was Chris Carter and got the image sent to me, I think I would deny it was mine, even if it was.
Nothing wrong with the making, just that it is so dated.
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Re: Chris Carter
I would agree. Times and fashion change. This one does look very much of its time. Chris Carter is a very interesting potter tho. He did develop a great deal in his career. His later work - somewhat influenced by Lucie Rie- is quite collectable, as its rather nice.
philpot- Number of posts : 6712
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
Re: Chris Carter
Thanks for all the input, much appreciated. Having looked around the net for an hour or two it does appear that it is a Carter piece. The method of leaving a clearly defined geometric section unglazed is something he did early on in his career.
As to how the effect was achieved, it may indeed have been done by double-dipping, and though it would have required a very steady hand to get such a sharp edge it does seem the logical answer. It would also have required at least three glazes since the interior has had a caramel-coloured wash which stands out against the lighter glazes, obviously to waterproof the part that would otherwise be unglazed.
I was going to say that it seems like work for the sake of work to decorate the inside of a pot to reflect the outer, but on reflection this would be the natural result of careful dipping.
To better show the inside I have today scrubbed away the detritus of the years to get a clearer image. It was bloody filthy!
Philpot, I've been looking at some of his most recent work which was inspired by archaeological finds from the Neolithic and Bronze Age. Some fascinating pieces.
As to how the effect was achieved, it may indeed have been done by double-dipping, and though it would have required a very steady hand to get such a sharp edge it does seem the logical answer. It would also have required at least three glazes since the interior has had a caramel-coloured wash which stands out against the lighter glazes, obviously to waterproof the part that would otherwise be unglazed.
I was going to say that it seems like work for the sake of work to decorate the inside of a pot to reflect the outer, but on reflection this would be the natural result of careful dipping.
To better show the inside I have today scrubbed away the detritus of the years to get a clearer image. It was bloody filthy!
Philpot, I've been looking at some of his most recent work which was inspired by archaeological finds from the Neolithic and Bronze Age. Some fascinating pieces.
Grumpy Grandad- Number of posts : 867
Location : E. Midlands UK
Registration date : 2019-11-11
Chris Carter (not Bill Connor) - Cc mark
I've been told this could be a Bill Connor but the mark is incised whilst his are usually impressed and a much more refined CC - there’s zero info on him or his work online. Somebody mentioned it may be an early Chris Carter and the form and tenmoku glaze definitely seem more like his style, but I can't find any other representations of this mark, for any potter, anywhere! I've read that Chris Carter has used 3 marks over the years but can only find 2 of them, can anybody confirm one way or the other if it's his work?
CityPotter- Number of posts : 56
Location : Leicester
Registration date : 2020-12-11
Re: Chris Carter
I’ve moved this to the ID My Pottery section until it’s been identified.
I dont think it’s Chris Carter, but also it’s not quite the same as Bill Connor’s mark. Closest to Bill Connor but it assumes he changed his mark because it’s pretty consistent
Chris Carter thread -
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t13772-chris-carter
Bill Connor’s mark
https://pin.it/2uoQzJ8
I dont think it’s Chris Carter, but also it’s not quite the same as Bill Connor’s mark. Closest to Bill Connor but it assumes he changed his mark because it’s pretty consistent
Chris Carter thread -
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t13772-chris-carter
Bill Connor’s mark
https://pin.it/2uoQzJ8
Last edited by NaomiM on October 23rd 2022, 5:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Chris Carter
The standard Yates-Owen illustrates Four Chris Carter marks. None really like this one. The 2 CC marks illustrated are much more rounded than this one. Much nearer a Typed C.
philpot- Number of posts : 6712
Location : cambridge
Registration date : 2010-11-06
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