Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
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Jolian ware? Sylvac ID information please - Falcon Ware
I recently bought a collection of Sylvac pieces and among them was this pair of vases. they appear to be marked with "Jolian Ware" but possibly Tolian. Mark is quite indistinct. Would any body recognise this mark and was this part of Sylvac as it is very similar to the other pieces I bought. Thanks for any help John
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Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
Falcon Ware
It was in a sense a sister company of SylvaC for a while, being produced in the same factory and the same items, just different back stamps, from what I understand, until they stopped using the name Falcon Ware.
Regards,
Potty.
It was in a sense a sister company of SylvaC for a while, being produced in the same factory and the same items, just different back stamps, from what I understand, until they stopped using the name Falcon Ware.
Regards,
Potty.
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Now that you have said that it is really obvious, thanks John
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No problem, signatures always look obvious when someone else tells you what they say, or I find they do anyway
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Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
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Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
The pattern is "Argosy"
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Thank you
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Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
Technically Thomas Lawrence Ltd Falcon works Longton. 1892-
Either shared or took over the Sylvan works
Shaw & Copestake (Sylvac) in 1957.
Either shared or took over the Sylvan works
Shaw & Copestake (Sylvac) in 1957.
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The other black script stamp is the pattern name - I think it is Argosy.
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Sylvac, Falcon Ware, Argosy (ships) pattern
So what would the brown script/signature be? Is it just a repeat of 'Falconware'?Or the designer's name?
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Can't really make it out. Must start with "F" but in a different script. Could be a
wholesaler/retailer name. Flosmaron is the only one I can think of.
wholesaler/retailer name. Flosmaron is the only one I can think of.
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denbydump wrote:Early Sylvac Naomi.
The pattern is "Argosy"
Hadn't noticed that you had already written this DD while I was sound asleep............ and probably still was when I repeated it.
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Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
So are all the other Falconware pieces that pop up when I google the name, later Sylvac or a different company?
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Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
I Think it may be an urban myth that they were connected.
Falcon bought the works that sylvac were using in 1957, Sylvac then
moved to another site at the same time.
Falcon bought the works that sylvac were using in 1957, Sylvac then
moved to another site at the same time.
Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
I have edited the title Naomi, as it has nothing to do with Sylvac.
As an aside, J. H. Weatherley & Sons of the Falcon Pottery in Hanley used the trade name Falcon Ware from around 1925 until 1936. Quite interesting, as Thomas Lawrence began using it in 1936 but I don't know the history.
Your jug has a mark used by Thomas Lawrence Ltd. in the 1950s/60s.
As an aside, J. H. Weatherley & Sons of the Falcon Pottery in Hanley used the trade name Falcon Ware from around 1925 until 1936. Quite interesting, as Thomas Lawrence began using it in 1936 but I don't know the history.
Your jug has a mark used by Thomas Lawrence Ltd. in the 1950s/60s.
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Cheers
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I know what it says here is 50s/60s, (but it does say there are no records)
http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/l/lawrance.html
Stylistically, this jug looks pure 1930s to me.
http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/l/lawrance.html
Stylistically, this jug looks pure 1930s to me.
Re: Falcon Ware. Thomas Lawrence (Longton) Ltd.
Yes, it does seem to be 50s-60s mark. I heard that a number of companies continued to use 30s designs into the 50s because of the war and lack of finance to revamp their factories, so this may explain the 30s look to the jug.
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Thanks, that's interesting.
Strange that your link attributes that particular Falcon Ware mark to the 1950s-60s though, as I'd say Ithe clock has a definite 30s shape and style - and I showed it to an auction house who said probably 1930s too - although they'd never seen one before so were just educated guessing. And if it was 1950s-60s I would expect more of them to have been put on the internet somewhere.
Strange that your link attributes that particular Falcon Ware mark to the 1950s-60s though, as I'd say Ithe clock has a definite 30s shape and style - and I showed it to an auction house who said probably 1930s too - although they'd never seen one before so were just educated guessing. And if it was 1950s-60s I would expect more of them to have been put on the internet somewhere.
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Due to WW2 there was little change in designs between 30s-50s. A lot of companies didn’t retool until the late 50s-60s, and rationing didn’t end until the mid-50s
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