Italian or German figures

These two have sadly been dropped (not by me) and are extensively damaged - so no real value. They have great detail. I just wondered if they where Italian or German.

I think it's German. Useful info on this thread about German manufacturers -

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t20306-white-relief-jug-with-crown-and-n-mark?highlight=Crown

have a look here:
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t19548-german-figurine-crown-over-n-probably-sandizell-hoffner-co-w-germany?highlight=german

Thank you most interesting.

:-)