Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
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Slipware dish with bird, cross mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
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Really like this Naomi
brin mcardle- Number of posts : 2707
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Same here. I am curious about the 1617. I cannot believe its a random date. Could it be commemorating something? Also what is the boat like object on the left? I have no answers I'm afraid though Naomi.
climberg64- Number of posts : 1254
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
The only event that has a tentative connection is the birth of Dorothy Spencer (nee Sidney), who became the Countess of Sunderland. Might explain the S at the end of the 'boat'.
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
Just seen another slipware piece with the impressed cross mark on the base, and on the front it has the cross mark in slip and the motto Moseley Old Hall around it, so I'm assuming that's where the pottery was based.
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
NaomiM wrote:Just seen another slipware piece with the impressed cross mark on the base, and on the front it has the cross mark in slip and the motto Moseley Old Hall around it, so I'm assuming that's where the pottery was based.
Moseley Old Hall is an Elizabethan Farmhouse just on the outskirts of Wolverhampton, I'm not aware of any pottery in the area, Paul Gooderham is about the nearest.
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Jean Hampton?
Lived in Wolverhampton,and did slipware. Similar to her stuff. A number of her pieces have been on Ebay recently. Worth looking at bacl items on Ebay.
Lived in Wolverhampton,and did slipware. Similar to her stuff. A number of her pieces have been on Ebay recently. Worth looking at bacl items on Ebay.
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Thanks. I don't think it's her style (or Paul's), but maybe a student or contemporary of Jean's.
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NaomiM wrote:Thanks. I don't think it's her style (or Paul's), but maybe a student or contemporary of Jean's.
I wasn't suggesting it was Paul Gooderham but that it was the only pottery I could think of in the area ( I work about 1 mile from Moseley Old Hall). Agree with you on Jean Hampton, definately not her style.
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
A pot made by the same pottery turned up in an excavation at Basing House, Old Basing. Apparently it was broken and left behind by one of the re-enactment societies (Sealed Knot or similar).
http://basinghouseproject.org/2014/02/24/slipware-mug-by-jamie-ingram/
http://basinghouseproject.org/2014/02/24/slipware-mug-by-jamie-ingram/
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Terracotta slipware / motto ware mug, cross mark
Hi does anyone recognise this piece/potter?
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debbie32- Number of posts : 258
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.......it says 'sen no mor'
debbie32- Number of posts : 258
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
I've come across the cross mark before, but not the others. Not IDed yet. Lots of new leads :) I have a suspicion it's a pottery that provides pottery for reenactments. There is a Moseley Old Hall which might be a lead.
Some other examples -
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237935992/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237502253/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237945838/
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird#79924
Some other examples -
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237935992/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237502253/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/175077504237945838/
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird#79924
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
Thanks NaomiM you always come up trumps :) and how interesting is the re enactment link. My ex was in the sealed knot and I remember going along to a battle at old basing. Its a lovely thing so i shall probably hang on to it .
debbie32- Number of posts : 258
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I've found one reference to this motto being used on "Metropolitan slipware", made in the 17th century (in Essex, I think) for the London market, and no doubt this is in imitation of the style.
http://archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/ceramics/pages/largerimage.asp?obj_id=115621%20&img_id=51426
Does anyone know how/ if the Trinity Court Potteries in Nottinghamshire mark their reproductions?
http://archive.museumoflondon.org.uk/ceramics/pages/largerimage.asp?obj_id=115621%20&img_id=51426
Does anyone know how/ if the Trinity Court Potteries in Nottinghamshire mark their reproductions?
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Thanks for the response hercules i had a look on the trinity court website and saw this:
http://www.trinitycourtpotteries.co.uk/Picture%201335.jpg
which is very very similar. i have also emailed them regarding the backstamp so will let you know when/if I get a response.
Makes sense if trinity are copying something thats held at the museum of london
http://www.trinitycourtpotteries.co.uk/Picture%201335.jpg
which is very very similar. i have also emailed them regarding the backstamp so will let you know when/if I get a response.
Makes sense if trinity are copying something thats held at the museum of london
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I have one of their watering pots. Sadly not marked
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I emailed trinity and they asked for photos which Ive sent they also mentioned that they sometimes mark the tankards inside and they can be hard to find. I will let you know more if they email me back. I do hope that they mark their work, or that could be why there are so many 'old' ceramic items on ebay possibly??
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It would be great to clear up this mystery :)
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Trinity court got back to me saying that this tankard wasnt one of theirs. I did ask about their backstamps but all they would say is that they sometimes mark inside the tankards, hmmm. Is it just me feeling a bit worried that loads of repros are going onto the market with no identifier?
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I have seen many on that internet auction site recently with suggestions that they are older than they are, often with prices that have no sense of reality.
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
Pretty sure it's by a pottery supplying re-enactment societies in the 60s-70s. A broken one was dug up by an archaeological team who thought they'd got the real thing until they found the mark. The real one wouldn't have been marked
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Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
Hello, I'm hoping someone might be able to help identify who made this slipware mug.
It looks like a reproduction of a 17th century piece and is decorated with typical slip decoration and the inscription 'Amend Thy Way 1637'.
The base is marked with an impressed cross and a large H in marker pen. It stands almost 5" tall.
Any ideas please?
Thanks
It looks like a reproduction of a 17th century piece and is decorated with typical slip decoration and the inscription 'Amend Thy Way 1637'.
The base is marked with an impressed cross and a large H in marker pen. It stands almost 5" tall.
Any ideas please?
Thanks
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I wish I knew! I’ve come across a number of pieces with the mark, most seem to be reproduction medieval (maybe made for reenactments), and some tourist ware, such as an Offas Dyke plate. Possibly made in the 60s give or take a decade, and possibly made at one of the Abbey potteries.
Another one here
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird-cross-mark-steve-and-sue-milligan
Another one here
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t10058-slipware-dish-with-bird-cross-mark-steve-and-sue-milligan
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Re: Slipware, Cross Mark - Steve and Sue Millingham
Hi Naomi - yes I've seen a few pieces as well. I live in Derbyshire and in the last few months I've seen about 4 or 5 pieces as different boot sales/yard sales. Because of this, I did wonder if it might be someone local to me. Intriguing!!
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