Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
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benwilliams- Number of posts : 2491
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Well at least you know the maker! Slightly stylistically confused piece. Don't know whether the little birds and the front add ons are meant to be humourous or not. Nicely done tho. Hobby potter?
philpot- Number of posts : 6713
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Guess so, if appeals to me - be nice to know what else is out there.
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Clever if he/she did it all on 16th February.
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Charles Stone.
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Is that the Charles Stone, painter, who died in 2019 and designed the Bottle Kiln in Derbyshire? I could only find news of an auction of his paintings after his death. Can’t find any Charles Stone pottery or figurines.,
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
benwilliams wrote:Is that the Charles Stone, painter, who died in 2019 and designed the Bottle Kiln in Derbyshire? I could only find news of an auction of his paintings after his death. Can’t find any Charles Stone pottery or figurines.,
No I don't believe so.
He seems to be mostly unknown, but there is a tiny bit of info here:
https://twitter.com/MuseumandArt/status/1331666462411534341
I doubt he was potting long, most pieces seem to date around 79-80, one I have is from 79.
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Potty- Number of posts : 3661
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
He might still be potting. Found this, written in 2018 although I'm not 100% sure of the timeline in the newsletter as there's a Chris Wright who's mentioned there and he might be the same Chris Wright based in Martock in Somerset. So the reference might be from the 80s. He would probably know if it's the same person.
http://www.mapperleyhistory.com/Villages/West-Hallam-P2.html
http://www.mapperleyhistory.com/Villages/West-Hallam-P2.html
Now, it would seem that the pottery is to take on a new lease of life. Charles Stone, already established as a potter in Mapperley Village, has bought the old Pottery. His plans are exciting, and according to Ernie Frost, only needs to sink a 60 foot shaft to find all the three clays he will need - plus coal, plus the veritable treasure-trove of plaster casts of jugs, teapots, vases etc.
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Another reference, from 2009 -
http://www.ilkcam.com/Archived/2009/0329WHXRds.html
Via the West Hallam Parish Council website
https://bottlekiln.co.uk/
Bottle Kiln buttery, craft and art gallery: High Ln W, West Hallam, Ilkeston
Charles Stone became a painter and is now deceased.
August 2022-
http://www.ilkcam.com/Archived/2009/0329WHXRds.html
The Stone family purchased the derelict site in 1983. Charles Stone designed and built the present complex of which only the kiln shell is an original building, with substantial help from his sons. The business here has been run by the Stone family ever since."
Via the West Hallam Parish Council website
In the 1920's West Hallam Pottery made decorative earthenware and examples can still be found locally. For many years the pottery site was abandoned and slowly deteriorated until it was bought in the 1980's by Mr Charles Stone and family and developed as the much admired Bottle Kiln buttery, craft and art gallery, saving the remaining (listed) kiln for posterity in a sympathetic environment, as well as attracting people from much further afield into West Hallam.
https://bottlekiln.co.uk/
Bottle Kiln buttery, craft and art gallery: High Ln W, West Hallam, Ilkeston
Charles Stone became a painter and is now deceased.
August 2022-
...the Stone Family are leaving The Bottle Kiln after 37 years here. It has been a very happy and productive period, but we are ready to move on and pass the baton on to the new owners, the Clarkes, who will be taking over in September.
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
I'm still not convinced that is the same Charles Stone to be honest. Unless he had a different pottery before buying the bottle kiln(which sounds to be more of a cafe than a pottery?), otherwise the dates don't add up. Has any seen any examples of pottery from the bottle kiln?
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Potty- Number of posts : 3661
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Yes, as the first quote says, he was “already established as a potter in Mapperley Village” before buying the bottle kiln in 1983. Seems he ran the place with his family. His sons may have been potters too. The Bottle Kiln Gallery website is still operational; they could be contacted. Or maybe contact Chris Wright at Martock and ask him if he’s the same Chris Wright who was with Stone helping with the Bottle Kiln back in the 80s
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Missed that detail, maybe then.
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Potty- Number of posts : 3661
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About Charles Stone
Hi... I stumbled on here quite by chance and noticed the interest in Charles Stone Pottery. Charles Stone was not a hobby potter, he was a professional and worked out of The Bottle Kiln as previously mentioned, he was also well know in the area for his paintings. I am lucky enough to own about a dozen of his pottery pieces and half dozen of his paintings... perhaps I should point out that he was my step brother in law.
My Father in law (his dad) visited the Bottle Kiln on various occasions and mother was so taken with his pottery, the intricacies of the lace like trees, the strange looking birds and the fact that every part of it was molded and worked on. Like myself, we were ignorant and just thought of a potter as someone who slaps a slab of clay on a wheel and makes vases and pots, but this sort of work was something different and she wanted some. So, as he was perfecting his art, he was still firing and glazing the pieces for sale in his restaurant which was part of the Kiln, she wanted some of these straight away in case he decided to try another tack, so she started buying some from him, most of them were the early ones and I believe the earlier ones were better. My mother passed away and these were left to my wife, she has sinced passed and now they are residing with me.... they are on full display in glass cabinets, as are his paintings, they are not hidden away to gather dust. Charles was a wonderful character and deserves to be remembered, it would be wrong for his name to disappear in obscurity and his work deserves to been seen.
I thank you all for the comments already made, he was worthy of them.... and I thank you for bringing him into the light....
TerryB
My Father in law (his dad) visited the Bottle Kiln on various occasions and mother was so taken with his pottery, the intricacies of the lace like trees, the strange looking birds and the fact that every part of it was molded and worked on. Like myself, we were ignorant and just thought of a potter as someone who slaps a slab of clay on a wheel and makes vases and pots, but this sort of work was something different and she wanted some. So, as he was perfecting his art, he was still firing and glazing the pieces for sale in his restaurant which was part of the Kiln, she wanted some of these straight away in case he decided to try another tack, so she started buying some from him, most of them were the early ones and I believe the earlier ones were better. My mother passed away and these were left to my wife, she has sinced passed and now they are residing with me.... they are on full display in glass cabinets, as are his paintings, they are not hidden away to gather dust. Charles was a wonderful character and deserves to be remembered, it would be wrong for his name to disappear in obscurity and his work deserves to been seen.
I thank you all for the comments already made, he was worthy of them.... and I thank you for bringing him into the light....
TerryB
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Re: Charles Stone, Mapperley Pottery and The Bottle Kiln, West Hallam
Many thanks for the info. It's great to hear about potters first hand. He definitely deserves to be remembered; his work is lovely.
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NaomiM wrote:The Stone family purchased the derelict site in 1983. Charles Stone designed and built the present complex of which only the kiln shell is an original building, with substantial help from his sons. The business here has been run by the Stone family ever since."
This was the original pottery on the site.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t20267-terraton-west-hallam-pottery-derbyshire
I visited many years ago, the bottle kiln was just a shell with a gravel floor that one could walk inside. Not actually in use.
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