Continental porcelain fruit plates, clover mark

I’m thinking these are Bavarian? Or Eastern European?
Any idea on a date and possible factory.
Some have a printed number 3271 8

Looks like an overstamp, maybe a retailer, often seen on Limoges porcelain.
Now if you could scrape it off if it is printed?

Transfer print unfortunately.

The maker of the blank is never important, just the decorator, and those aren't documented well.

janetpjohn wrote:The maker of the blank is never important, just the decorator, and those aren't documented well.

What you say is correct but these are factory made plates with a retailer's stamp on top of the factory mark. Also they are not hand-painted.

I thought the green was a decorator's mark. They could have done the fruit and the gold, or just added the gold. It doesn't seem logical that a retailer would use an unidentifiable mark, but decorators did it all the time.

It's a cover-up mark probably... https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/resources/vocabulary/coverup.php

Really helpful everyone. Thank you.