Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
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Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194148195302?hash=item2d34225be6:g:-E0AAOSwYsRgp11o
https://pin.it/4fJi02J
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A seller with exactly 3 Feedback on Ebay. A model boat stylised John Maltby England on the front. Never seen that signature before.
https://pin.it/4fJi02J
https://pin.it/3vZUUMQ
A seller with exactly 3 Feedback on Ebay. A model boat stylised John Maltby England on the front. Never seen that signature before.
philpot- Number of posts : 6710
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
It's very similar to his boats on this page
https://fishinkblog.com/2011/12/15/john-maltby-birds-and-boats/
https://fishinkblog.com/2011/12/15/john-maltby-birds-and-boats/
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
yes it looks legit' to me
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dantheman- Consultant
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
hi, probably ok but would need provenance, user name TOYMAK50 rings an alarm bell.
croker- Number of posts : 716
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday
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dantheman- Consultant
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
with rising prices and the relative ease in which these things can be copied i think a certain amount of provenance is essential, just because an item looks ok or similar to others it does not mean it's right.
croker- Number of posts : 716
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
I know a guy who made Poole pottery animals for over 10 years after acquiring the original molds
fake pots are old news
fake pots are old news
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dantheman- Consultant
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
hi dantheman, Am i to take it that by the tone of your reply that my comments are not relevant any more.
croker- Number of posts : 716
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
no you shouldn't. I wasn't Dissing you
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dantheman- Consultant
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
ok thanks , like you i have seen a number of fakes in the past from 18th century pottery through to troika and whitefriars glass ,these fakes or reproductions only undermine the confidence of potential new buyers and the point i was trying to make was that items like maltbys constructions are fairly easy to fake and should be approached carefully .
croker- Number of posts : 716
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
dantheman wrote:the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday
sold for £555. An experienced collector on FB bought it and it had 25 bids so I think it's legit.
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NaomiM wrote:dantheman wrote:the bid is £250 so TOYMAK50 is in for a good payday
sold for £555. An experienced collector on FB bought it and it had 25 bids so I think it's legit.
A man that keeps Pete the Postie in a job (and biscuits) for those in the know.
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The gentleman in question must have a house like the Tardis, given how big his collection must be!
philpot- Number of posts : 6710
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
There is one collector of Maltbys collages, etc, who has them displayed floor to ceiling
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
Would that be the Gent from Yorkshire?
philpot- Number of posts : 6710
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Lol, I dont know where they are. Online, somewhere in the ether like the rest of us.
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
If we are talking about this one, then it's nearer to you........ in deepest Suffolk.philpot wrote:Would that be the Gent from Yorkshire?
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
Oh you mean the Sargent Big Fan as well!
philpot- Number of posts : 6710
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My lips are sealed. He's also very keen on slipware.
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
?? I'm stunned by some of these? Sure hope pottery does not become 'mainstream'
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Maltby-Swinging-Boat-/194200425684?hash=item2d373f54d4%3Ag%3ACrcAAOSwSdVgxgQV&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Huge-Alan-Wallwork-Pierced-Oval-Structure-52-x-25cm-Studio-Pottery-/294246457786?hash=item448274a1ba%3Ag%3A75oAAOSwl-hg0-g-&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Large-John-Maltby-034-Owl-and-Wall-034-Sculpture-Studio-Pottery-36cm-2012-/294105254610?hash=item447a0a0ad2%3Ag%3A8EoAAOSwOERfn4-s&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/John-Maltby-Swinging-Boat-/194200425684?hash=item2d373f54d4%3Ag%3ACrcAAOSwSdVgxgQV&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Huge-Alan-Wallwork-Pierced-Oval-Structure-52-x-25cm-Studio-Pottery-/294246457786?hash=item448274a1ba%3Ag%3A75oAAOSwl-hg0-g-&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-Large-John-Maltby-034-Owl-and-Wall-034-Sculpture-Studio-Pottery-36cm-2012-/294105254610?hash=item447a0a0ad2%3Ag%3A8EoAAOSwOERfn4-s&nma=true&si=qxDcs22ilFWPON1DaMxxM6wZMPc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
I must admit when I saw the asking price on that Big Maltby I muttered Nahhhhh. More fool me. That must be a near record price for him.
The MALTBY model piece was quite a sizeable sum for what have probably been bought cheaper at an ordinary auction.
A new expensive dawn for the prices of studio pottery? Ii dunno. There is an awful lot of silly, hot money sloshing around the world monetary system now. From the Bonkers rise of cryptocurrencies like Bitcon ( a subject completely unitelligible to me!) to the oversubscribed market launches of tech unicorns whose only claim to fame is that have already lost £billions, to the record breaking prices in the British housing market.
Its all looking for ways to keep value, when in the real world value of money itself is being lessened through inflation being more than in interest rates.
There is a feeling of herd panic in the air, of South Sea Bubbles, of Black Dutch Tulips, of 1920's like stock market crashes.,,,,
The MALTBY model piece was quite a sizeable sum for what have probably been bought cheaper at an ordinary auction.
A new expensive dawn for the prices of studio pottery? Ii dunno. There is an awful lot of silly, hot money sloshing around the world monetary system now. From the Bonkers rise of cryptocurrencies like Bitcon ( a subject completely unitelligible to me!) to the oversubscribed market launches of tech unicorns whose only claim to fame is that have already lost £billions, to the record breaking prices in the British housing market.
Its all looking for ways to keep value, when in the real world value of money itself is being lessened through inflation being more than in interest rates.
There is a feeling of herd panic in the air, of South Sea Bubbles, of Black Dutch Tulips, of 1920's like stock market crashes.,,,,
philpot- Number of posts : 6710
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
hi crawford, not sure what you mean by becoming 'mainstream'
croker- Number of posts : 716
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
I have noticed over recent months that a number of popular ceramic items have made higher prices on eBay than in other auctions and galleries.
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
I’ve seen pieces sold at auction that have turned up on eBay for twice the price. I suspect it’s a couple of dealers doing it. Auction prices are high enough as it is as collectors pile in thinking they’ll get a bargain.
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Re: Maltby boat picture: Anybody ever seen a Maltby signature like this?
A dealer bought some Maltby's from me last year at a price that I was happy with and I was congratulated by another dealer in getting the prices that I did.
The person that bought the items from me only sold one piece on eBay, as far as I know, and that went for more than double what he bought it from me for. That was before Maltby died too.
It doesn't bother me personally but I have never understood collectors that won't look or buy unless it's an auction situation. Maybe it's the excitement and a similar buzz to gambling that attracts them. Perhaps that they need to be convinced that it is as good as they believe it is. I don't know.
The person that bought the items from me only sold one piece on eBay, as far as I know, and that went for more than double what he bought it from me for. That was before Maltby died too.
It doesn't bother me personally but I have never understood collectors that won't look or buy unless it's an auction situation. Maybe it's the excitement and a similar buzz to gambling that attracts them. Perhaps that they need to be convinced that it is as good as they believe it is. I don't know.
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