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Post by potworld September 19th 2011, 10:34 pm

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Post by Potty Primate September 20th 2011, 1:04 am

I'd guess at Bay Keramik around the '70s.
The number on the base will be 328/8; 328 being the shape number, the 8 is the height in cm.
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Post by vhb64 September 20th 2011, 9:30 pm

correct 328/8 , Übelacker though. For sure.
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Post by KurtSchöner March 21st 2012, 8:47 am

hi there!

a neighbour give this to me, very unusual piece to me, but there is a large crack at the backside Frustrated

the mark (number) , looks like ü-keramik to me, but maybe i am wrong.
has someone seen this kind of vase before and can say me it´s a w.german or other vase?

it is marked with 1488 / 30


thanks a lot

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Post by vanmann April 4th 2012, 5:23 pm

Any ideas out there please on this nice little German(?) pot. Mark to base reads 467/9. Thanks John

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Post by Zijperspace November 12th 2012, 10:09 pm

So can someone help me please on finding the ID of this lovely vase?
It's reasonably heavy, compared to other West Germany vases, this 1787-22. White clay, and for the design they cut quite deep in it before it went into the oven.

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Post by Zijperspace November 12th 2012, 10:11 pm

I'm sorry. I wanted to show small pictures, but I selected the wrong files.
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Post by brin mcardle November 12th 2012, 10:21 pm

Beautiful
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Post by vhb64 November 13th 2012, 12:53 am

Try Übelacker (Ü Keramik)
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Post by Zijperspace November 13th 2012, 8:39 am

Thank you, Volker.
I've been trying some searches on 'ubelacker', 'uebelacker' and 'u keramik', but no result untill now. Sometimes I did find a vase that had a glaze that slightly looked like it, but not close enough though.
The way the vase is marked has some resemblance with the way Übelacker did that usually I found out. Is that enough proof for this vase being an Übelacker? :-)
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Post by vhb64 November 13th 2012, 9:09 am

try "Ü Keramik" (with Umlaut) on Google with quotation marks, click on "pictures",
and search for jugs / handled vases
1000 range vases
1500 range jugs / handled vases
e.g. 1717, 1723, 1737, 1741, 1747, 1748, 1749, 1756 ...
markings consistently with comparatively tall numbers on top of the base, no origin marks like W.GERMANY etc., enough copies with Ü stickers to be quite sure.
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Post by Zijperspace November 13th 2012, 10:59 am

I think you're right, Volker. Thank you for helping me out on this.
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Post by Celtic_Fan November 19th 2012, 12:06 am

A piece from the auction 'job lot', but know real idea of maker.
I think I've got the numbering right as 551-15 (from what I've read about their 1's and 7's, but I could be wrong and it may be 557-75 - but I'm sure someone will correct me if needs be. I've found one reference to a vase of this numbers being by Scheurich, but no pic's and I've been unable to find any other examples of this design or shape to confirm this.

But I know one (or more) of you guy's and gal's will know.

Unfortunately this one does have a chip to the base, but hardly shows even when seen from that side and it's the other one I rather like, so it doesn't matter as I'll probably keep it. Some wonderful colours to it.

Height is 15cm.
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Again, I'd love to have an idea of its age if anyone knows.
Thanks.
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Post by big ed November 19th 2012, 11:37 am

numbering like that was once attributed to Soendgen , but that might have changed now , Volker might Know .
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Post by Celtic_Fan November 22nd 2012, 10:08 am

I've now found a pic of a Scheurich 551 (but a different size number) and it was a totally different shaped vase - so I guess Scheurich can be ruled out.

I couldn't find any of that shape by Soendgen. Although I did see (to my eye) similar numbering by a couple of companies. But can't find an even remotely similar shape.

So still looking for a maker. Someone must have seen the shape before?
Volker - any ideas ??
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Post by vhb64 November 22nd 2012, 11:53 am

I´d say Übelacker, pretty sure.

"Someone must have seen the shape before?"
Yes, Ü Keramiik vases numbers 524 - 588 partly with formwise and glazewise
matching jugs in the 1700 & 1800 range, 1970s i think

- 551 over 15 and 552 over 18, matching jug 1832 over 30,
unusual markings though

- 559 / 15, matching jugs 1836, 1837

- 560 / 20 , matching jug 1844/20



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Post by big ed November 22nd 2012, 12:15 pm

Volker - can you check the Soendgen Thread , I'm sure there is a few wrong Id's In There , Ed
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Post by Celtic_Fan November 22nd 2012, 1:19 pm

Many thanks Volker. Bow Down
Looking at the posts on here in the U Keramik thread, I can see the same style of numbers. Also, although different - I can see a similarity of form to the red & white jug on page 3 (3rd post from top).

I still can't find this exact shape number anywhere on the Net. Does that mean it's rare or just such a new collecting field that most of it hasn't had their pic's posted?

Dispite it's slight damage I'm increasingly loving this and have a 'horrible feeling' that this and my D&B vase might be forming the start of a collection Frustrated
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Post by vhb64 November 22nd 2012, 1:45 pm

"I still can't find this exact shape number anywhere on the Net"
Well, there was once another copy and and jug 1832 is a close match.









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Post by vhb64 November 22nd 2012, 2:24 pm

Ed, i see three groups

1. pots 534 & 539 in the Söndgen thread have a white clay and are marked "Made i. W.Germany"

Pots 534, 535, 537, 539 with these marks can be attributed to Übelacker / Ü - Keramik;
pots 535 & 537 are known with Ü stickers.

2. vase 106/25 with white clay was attr. to Söndgen, rather unlikely imo.

3. other pieces attributed to Söndgen have a pink-ish
clay and are sometimes marked "Made in W.Germany"

Where is the proof ?









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Post by Zijperspace November 29th 2012, 10:53 pm

Height 20cm. No marks. Just a sticker that says Ü Keramik.

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Post by Zijperspace November 29th 2012, 10:58 pm

Love this one.

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Post by Zijperspace December 3rd 2012, 9:52 pm

Biggest vase I have here:

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With sticker.
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One with sticker where you just can read the 'Ü'.
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