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Post by dantheman April 2nd 2011, 11:18 am

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I found these at a car boot sale this morning,they are well made and I quite like the design.
Although they look like Lorna Bailey pottery I cannot find that pattern or shape linked to her name clarice cliff fakes 674483
They are unmarked


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Post by dantheman April 2nd 2011, 11:26 am

I have spotted the reminants of a mark
'Hand' something, 'pottery' & a looped letter such as y or j

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Post by dantheman April 2nd 2011, 11:32 am

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Post by dantheman February 25th 2013, 12:15 pm

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150137679060083.402777.492456465082&type=3

I was just sent this info from a kind ebayer

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Post by NaomiM February 25th 2013, 12:46 pm

Nice pair but I don't think the quality is there for them to be Lorna Bailey's. Looking at that web page they look very similar to the one at the end, titled "Fake Honolulu style bowl carrying a counterfeit backstamp"

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Post by dantheman February 25th 2013, 12:47 pm

they are nice fakes it's true

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Post by Potty February 25th 2013, 1:07 pm

dantheman wrote:I have spotted the reminants of a mark
'Hand' something, 'pottery' & a looped letter such as y or j

Looks like a fake Newport Clarice Cliff mark.

The bottom bit would read "Newport Pottery" with "England" underneath.

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Post by Potty February 25th 2013, 1:09 pm

Opps, never looked at the link or read Naomi's reply properly. Shock

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Post by NaomiM February 25th 2013, 1:29 pm

Still a useful observation, Potty. Most Excellent

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Post by NaomiM July 30th 2016, 12:19 am

Weird one. Lustre vase by Clarice Cliff for Wilkinson Ltd

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Post by dantheman July 30th 2016, 8:32 am

looks like the glaze used on the Oriflamme Bird that I own

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Post by NaomiM July 30th 2016, 12:27 pm

Seems she designed some lustre pieces for the American market. Not sure if this is pre- or post- Bizarre

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Post by studio-pots July 30th 2016, 7:05 pm

I suspect it's using the pre-Clarice Oriflamme type glazes and her name as a "brand". She knew nothing about glazes.

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Post by NaomiM August 1st 2016, 2:04 am

From the Staffordshire Potteries webpage

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Post by NaomiM August 1st 2016, 6:40 pm

Sadly it proved to be a fake. I got this message from the Clarice Cliff collectors club

Very sorry to advise that your Shape 990 Indian Tree vase is a well known fake with a counterfeit mark.
This has been confirmed by the Clarice Cliff Collectors Club in an alert to your vase in their eBay forum,
‪http://claricecliff.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/878101301‬
There are a number of problems with your vase which is very modern, the embossed pattern is not as crisp or extensive as on an original vase, the mark underneath is not quite the same as an original litho, the font is not quite the same and the spacings are wrong. Also Wilkinsons did not produce a lustre glaze which is different to the glaze used on Oriflamme pieces. I have attached images of a genuine Shape 990 Indian Tree Vase so you can see the differences for your self.
I am sorry to give you bad news about your vase but I should also advise that counterfeits may not be sold on eBay because it is against the law in the UK to pass off counterfeit goods. The club may be able to help you further if you ask them.


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Post by denbydump August 1st 2016, 6:48 pm

Errr.. why has your item ended up here Naomi?
Don't you think it's right?
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Post by NaomiM August 1st 2016, 6:49 pm

It's a fake, Denby. Just posted the message from the Clarice Cliff collectors club.

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Post by denbydump August 1st 2016, 6:51 pm

Read it, tried to delete the post but too late!
The experts know don't they?
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Post by NaomiM August 1st 2016, 6:55 pm

Some experts :). I'd listed it on a general British pottery collectors Forum but they didn't know. Then I listed it on eBay and the Clarice Cliff collectors club promptly got in touch. Anyway, I've deleted it. I'll drop it off at the Charity shop.

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Post by denbydump August 1st 2016, 6:58 pm

NaomiM wrote:Some experts :). I'd listed it on a general British pottery collectors Forum but they didn't know. Then I listed it on eBay and the Clarice Cliff collectors club promptly got in touch. Anyway, I've deleted it. I'll drop it off at the Charity shop.  

From where it will probably be purchased and end up on Ebay again!
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Post by denbydump August 1st 2016, 7:02 pm

Can't say I have ever seen this fake before. I have however seen plenty of the
large colourful "Lotus" jugs, for sale at fairs, very shiny, with an over-printed black
backstamp. The owner of our local centre was nearly caught out with one, brought
in to sell, until I warned her off it!
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Post by NaomiM August 1st 2016, 7:21 pm

Well just in case anyone else gets caught out I've rubbed the marks off with sand paper. Seems there are other marks underneath, in a circle, but too obscured by glaze to read.

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Post by studio-pots August 1st 2016, 10:51 pm

It's an odd sort of fake really as it doesn't look anything like what a Clarice Cliff collector would be interested in buying.

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Post by denbydump August 1st 2016, 11:05 pm

Yes and even the genuine article shown above is not exactly very sought after either.
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Post by studio-pots August 1st 2016, 11:35 pm

Maybe it's done by a real Clarice Cliff collector in order to destroy all Indian Tree vases? Cheeky

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