Now this must be Italian?
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Now this must be Italian?
The design is a bit Stig Lindberg Carnival but in my view much better, freer and more spontaneous, like picasso....maybe its one of his? Any ideas would be valued.
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Re: Now this must be Italian?
we had one by the same pottery on the forum recently and I have a couple of pieces
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dantheman- Consultant
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Excellent. I mostly have British pottery. This is the only piece like this I have. Is it possible to say who made it and when?
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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dantheman- Consultant
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Another one!
climberg64- Number of posts : 1255
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Wow! I would have sworn this stuff was Italian... but apparently it is Mexican. There is a piece on ebay (US) item number 160410260569. It is signed "Talavera El Carmen". Check it out.
Calusa- Number of posts : 241
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http://www.alfarelcarmen.com/
Here is their web- site , It's actually spanish , Ed
Here is their web- site , It's actually spanish , Ed
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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Curiously, the pictures on the website show nothing even remotely resembling the pieces with the lumpy white glaze and the modernist cartoony figures (I have a small bowl with a fish). The pieces shown on the website have such a classical almost Renaissance look to them that I'm not yet convinced that these pieces are from that place.
Calusa- Number of posts : 241
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Actually, check this link to several ebay items:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Talavera-El-Carmen-Plate-Bowl-Fish-Pottery-Signed-Mexic-/400107012979
http://cgi.ebay.com/Talavera-El-Carmen-Plate-Bowl-Fish-Pottery-Signed-Mexic-/400107012979
Calusa- Number of posts : 241
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Well, actually, you apparently get one listing with that, but if you click "visit seller's store", under "kitchenware, dishes on page 5, she has 7 pieces like this listed and refers to them as Mexican (?).
Calusa- Number of posts : 241
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No idea where she gets the Mexican idea from, Talavera is definitely in Spain (at least it is on my map).
Potty Primate- Number of posts : 345
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Ok , I have found out there is , or was a Talavera Pottery in Pueblo Mexico , ( majolica) however there is also a Talavera Pottery in Spain that uses a technique of Italian & Spanish mix , which would be more in keeping with this style imo.
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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Talavera is a well known type of Mexican pottery that is only produced in certain regions due to the specific type of clay deposits in the area. The style originated in Talavera de la Reina, Spain and then traveled to the Americas with colonial Spaniards. It has been a tradition in Mexico since the 16th century. Curiously, the pieces in question bear no resemblance to typical Talavera pottery. IMHO, these items look more like 1960's Italian stuff--go figure....
Calusa- Number of posts : 241
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These pieces are Spanish.
Their tourist ware, I've seen several with identical designs marked with names of diferent spanish towns.
Their tourist ware, I've seen several with identical designs marked with names of diferent spanish towns.
Re: Now this must be Italian?
well done Rita,we have been trying to come up with that info for several years
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dantheman- Consultant
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dantheman wrote:well done Rita,we have been trying to come up with that info for several years
not really Dan , I said they were Spanish last year
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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I didn't have you down as an I told you so type of guy Ed
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dantheman- Consultant
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dantheman wrote:I didn't have you down as an I told you so type of guy Ed
just stating the obvious Dan , it's already Id'd , i mean what's tthe point of id'ing if no one listens
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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what did you base your id on back then Ed?
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dantheman- Consultant
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Pip and I had similar pieces before .
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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and they were marked Spain?
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dantheman- Consultant
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big ed wrote:Ok , I have found out there is , or was a Talavera Pottery in Pueblo Mexico , ( majolica) however there is also a Talavera Pottery in Spain that uses a technique of Italian & Spanish mix , which would be more in keeping with this style imo.
was it after this post?
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dantheman- Consultant
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JeeZ ! , what diff does it make , ? they had been Id'd ages ago probably a few times , the way I see it is this , if somebody takes the time googling , looking up books , referencing etc . and then id's a piece of pottery or glass, then it should get logged in that thread , , obviously it was before that quote , last year I think and before that when we were looking up cases pottery in spain .
big ed- Number of posts : 11934
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4 mods have been working on that today,we should have it in order shortly
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