Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
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Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Who made this beautiful vase... this is what i can make out from the mark at the base... ALLER B AND 10/11/35?
I love this item because is very beautiful although there some few chips.. am gonna have a go at having it repaired.. need to look for good pottery around my end and have it fits. great lot :)
I love this item because is very beautiful although there some few chips.. am gonna have a go at having it repaired.. need to look for good pottery around my end and have it fits. great lot :)
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Potty wrote:Looks like Aller Vale Pottery.
Agreed. With scandi slipware decoration.
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NaomiM wrote:Potty wrote:Looks like Aller Vale Pottery.
Agreed. With scandi slipware decoration.
not sure i understand 'scandi slipware decoration'.
it's called an udder vase and i concure, deffo Aller Vale
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
although, it looks more like Sandringham pattern in reverse colours - white on blue, rather than blue on white.
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Aller Vale pie crust mottoware bowl
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Can that be Scottish? (Big Ed?).
The Scottish and Welsh dialect motto wares are always
sought after, more than the usual carrot-cruncher stuff.
nice bit Naomi.
The Scottish and Welsh dialect motto wares are always
sought after, more than the usual carrot-cruncher stuff.
nice bit Naomi.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
The Selkirk Grace, attributed (incorrectly) to Robert Burns.
Presumably Aller Vale and the other Devon mottoware potteries must have made Scots and Welsh language wares specifically for distribution to retailers in Scotland and Wales?
Presumably Aller Vale and the other Devon mottoware potteries must have made Scots and Welsh language wares specifically for distribution to retailers in Scotland and Wales?
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
It's a popular motto. I suspect they were mainly made to be sold down south to tourists.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
r-and-f wrote:The Selkirk Grace, attributed (incorrectly) to Robert Burns.
Presumably Aller Vale and the other Devon mottoware potteries must have made Scots and Welsh language wares specifically for distribution to retailers in Scotland and Wales?
Ah, so it is Scottish!
Yes I think so, as I have had some Torquay mottos in Welsh Gaelic,
which would not mean much to anyone outside Wales.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
What was a more "desirable" item, though Torquay has hit the skids.
The cats and dogs subjects were always good, but for 20p well....
The cats and dogs subjects were always good, but for 20p well....
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
A 10 inch high vase with beautifully done impasto Narcissi. K2 pattern c1920s.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
The more desireable "Coloured cockerel" motif.
Motto reads:
Take thy calling thankfully,
Love thy neighbour neighbourly,
Shun the path to beggary.
Motto reads:
Take thy calling thankfully,
Love thy neighbour neighbourly,
Shun the path to beggary.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
A more unusual moulded shape, with a floral cartouche on one side only. K1 pattern.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Nice motto.
Love your enemies, trust but few,
And always paddle your own canoe.
Love your enemies, trust but few,
And always paddle your own canoe.
Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Aimed at the Irish market , I guess. Wondering how old it is as it appears to have some age
Base shot hopeless but has ALLER VALE impressed and 275 incised under he glaze
Base shot hopeless but has ALLER VALE impressed and 275 incised under he glaze
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
I can't find dates except that Aller was in production 1880s to early 1930s. But I would guess early 1900s (1910s?) for this piece.
http://allervalepottery.co.uk
http://allervalepottery.co.uk
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Thanks Naomi. I found that site and have found an email contact so have sent a message begging for info!!
I've just realised on further scrutinising that the bottom of the handle where they have been fixed to the body appear to be in form of animal claws - but probably my imagination again !!
I've just realised on further scrutinising that the bottom of the handle where they have been fixed to the body appear to be in form of animal claws - but probably my imagination again !!
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
I think you're right about the animal claws :)
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
The Aller Vale (Art) Pottery was probably in existance from 1868 but it wasn't until 1881 that John Phillips started to produce art pottery. Phillips died in 1897 and the business was taken over by Hexter, Humpherson & Co., who later purchased the Watcombe Terra-Cotta Co. and amalgamated the two firms in 1901. The company then became Royal Aller Vale & Watcombe Pottery Co. and generally the pottery from 1901 used Watcombe, Royal Aller Vale and other wording in the marks.
Therefore if that was true of all the wares produced, your two handled cup would have been made from c1885 (when work started to be marked) up to 1901. However, I have seen refererence to "Motto Ware", which is what this is, having the Aller Vale mark and the old shape number, as here, when produced by the amalgamated company after 1901.
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about this pottery to be able to say whether the reference I quote in the last sentence is correct or not.
Therefore if that was true of all the wares produced, your two handled cup would have been made from c1885 (when work started to be marked) up to 1901. However, I have seen refererence to "Motto Ware", which is what this is, having the Aller Vale mark and the old shape number, as here, when produced by the amalgamated company after 1901.
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about this pottery to be able to say whether the reference I quote in the last sentence is correct or not.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Thanks for that SP. I'm hoping I will get a response to the email I sent to the chap on allervalepottery.co.uk
I'll post any info I get
I'll post any info I get
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
That would be good.
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Information kindly provided by Peter Wright on the Aller Vale web site :
This is a nice piece of Aller Vale, dating to around 1910, pay no attention to dots!
The shape 275 is on the Aller Vale shapes page under the Potteries menu on the website, where you will also come across a few other pots with this pattern.
Unsurprisingly the pattern and motto tend to go together.
The high glaze is from lead glaze used widely at the time.
It could be worth around £20
The reference to ' dots' is the mention I made when contacting him that I had been told my someone that the dots around the top being close together indicated an early date !
This is a nice piece of Aller Vale, dating to around 1910, pay no attention to dots!
The shape 275 is on the Aller Vale shapes page under the Potteries menu on the website, where you will also come across a few other pots with this pattern.
Unsurprisingly the pattern and motto tend to go together.
The high glaze is from lead glaze used widely at the time.
It could be worth around £20
The reference to ' dots' is the mention I made when contacting him that I had been told my someone that the dots around the top being close together indicated an early date !
Last edited by lindylou08 on March 24th 2015, 4:02 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : grammar!)
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Re: Aller Vale Pottery, Torquay (Devon)
Thanks for that and it does confirm that the Aller Vale mark was used on motto ware after 1901.
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Dimpled Allervale Jug Blue & Cream Pattern
About 4 1/4 inch high. Stamped 'Allervale' and I presume the style number, but does anyone know about the other mark C or L 1?
also does anyone happen to know if this is a pattern from earlier in the pottery's history (late 1800's) ? I've seen this pattern on ww.studiopottery.com/cgi-bin/pp.cgi?item=2172 and the stamp design looks the same period.
also does anyone happen to know if this is a pattern from earlier in the pottery's history (late 1800's) ? I've seen this pattern on ww.studiopottery.com/cgi-bin/pp.cgi?item=2172 and the stamp design looks the same period.
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