William (Bill) Marshall
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Re: William (Bill) Marshall
So your pieces are all by Bill Marshall after the left the Leach St Ives pottery in 1977 then? The period that many people regard as his best period of work.
philpot- Number of posts : 6711
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Not sure Philpot - the jug I bought from John Bedding at the Leach Pottery and the slab bottle from an auction.
My problem is I am playing catch up and I wouldn’t know how to tell.
I know about his studio at Lelant but I wouldn’t know how to tell whether it was made at the Leach or at Lelant.
Wish I could!!
My problem is I am playing catch up and I wouldn’t know how to tell.
I know about his studio at Lelant but I wouldn’t know how to tell whether it was made at the Leach or at Lelant.
Wish I could!!
Neil62- Number of posts : 389
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All the pieces that Bill Marshall made at St Ives would have the St Ives mark on as well. We have a long thread on the Leach pottery which you might find of interest.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t9954-the-leach-pottery-st-ives-cornwall?highlight=bernard+leach
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t9954-the-leach-pottery-st-ives-cornwall?highlight=bernard+leach
philpot- Number of posts : 6711
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Yes - thanks I read it this morning - It was interesting!
Neil62- Number of posts : 389
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Neil62 wrote:Not sure Philpot - the jug I bought from John Bedding at the Leach Pottery and the slab bottle from an auction.
My problem is I am playing catch up and I wouldn’t know how to tell.
I know about his studio at Lelant but I wouldn’t know how to tell whether it was made at the Leach or at Lelant.
Wish I could!!
The earthenware jug that you bought from St Ives Ceramics would have been made by Bill at his home in Lelant, using the earthenware mix of his son, Andrew. It would have been fired in his kiln along with some of Andrew's pots that was near to Bill's house. This would have been after his retirement from the Leach Pottery and the earthenware should contain St. Erth sand, which Andrew added to the earthenware to make it more durable.
The slab bottle looks to me Lelant made too.
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halliz- Number of posts : 88
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I believe this is by Bill Marshall
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Thanks so much. I thought it might be but wasn't entirely sure. Much appreciated
halliz- Number of posts : 88
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Difficult to be 100% sure when it’s not his stamped MW mark but the decoration looks like his
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Thanks. That was my concern but then I am not an expert on his work, albeit would like to be!
halliz- Number of posts : 88
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looks like these examples of his incised mark
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t17153-william-marshall-bill-marshall#195931
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t17153-william-marshall-bill-marshall#195931
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Thank you. I worry that mine is actually a bit too crude and the porcelain a bit thick to be anything other than a fake but it came in an auction job lot of studio pottery very cheaply but also included other good ones (one Aldermaston Mo Hamid) so perhaps the seller was house clearing and didn't know what they had.
halliz- Number of posts : 88
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He's one of the few well known potters that I don't have any of his work, nor handled any of his work, so I don't know what his potting technique is like.
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He often incised his mark when he didn't have a stamp handy and his porcelain work is never thin.
No doubt it's by Bill.
No doubt it's by Bill.
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philpot- Number of posts : 6711
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How much was it!
Given that it looks a big size, I suspect it was quite a lot. Not the best example tho. The sparseness of the decoration makes it look a bit boring.
Given that it looks a big size, I suspect it was quite a lot. Not the best example tho. The sparseness of the decoration makes it look a bit boring.
philpot- Number of posts : 6711
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Hi Philpot
It’s for sale on eBay for £850 but I’m not sure that’s where Naomi saw it.
I’m sure I saw a post on Facebook asking whether it was genuine and I think that was at an antique centre but I’m not sure … it may be them advertising it on eBay.
Kind regards
Neil62
It’s for sale on eBay for £850 but I’m not sure that’s where Naomi saw it.
I’m sure I saw a post on Facebook asking whether it was genuine and I think that was at an antique centre but I’m not sure … it may be them advertising it on eBay.
Kind regards
Neil62
Neil62- Number of posts : 389
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Thanks for that Neil. Since selling fees have become lower on Ebay there seems to be substantially more high priced items on Ebay. First time i Have looked at Bill Marshall prices on Ebay for some time. Prices are expensive! Just as well I am not buying any more.
As a footnote to this piece. A Private seller with 350+ items on sale!
As a footnote to this piece. A Private seller with 350+ items on sale!
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