Poole Pottery 1960-1980 Part Two

I'll tell the owner

So we don't know why it's going?
I could do a site mirror if anyone wants it.

Ok i see now. Hosted by microsoft.

I think it's quite easy to move the domain to another server, if the owner wants to
be bothered. Surely he has the "site" on his own machine. It can be re-upped
anywhere.

It's happened to me several times using free hosters, though my current one seems ok

It's on Microsoft's Office 365 server - aspx.net powered (I'm just repeating what he's telling me. Don't ask me to explain it)

Hubby would have to convert it to html to be able to host it on his Linux server

Yes it's aspx, MS specific. I guess the owner is aware of this.
It would need a rewrite.

I have no knowledge of the workings of computers and websites but I do know it would be an awful shame to lose the Pooleimages website. Whilst the pots and dishes are some of the best Poole pieces produced there is (probably) nowhere else that you can see such a comprehensive display of Carter tile panels.

Tony Morris.
I have just heard the very sad news that Tony Morris passed away yesterday. He had been very poorly for sometime.

Very sad news about Tony. Best of the Poole artists imho.

That's two bit of very sad news - Tony and the Virtual Museum.

Other people will be more tech-savy than I regarding transfering a website but if it needs a few pounds to make it happen, I'll happily contribute.

Poole bowl.
A mark - Alison...?

In 1967 Ann Godfrey used an 'A' on her pieces, and stylistically I would put the bowl at '67-'69 era. It could therefore be by her.

Cheers :) I thought the price ticket had said Alison-something but the shop kept it and I hadn't made a note if it :)

I would write could be in bold font were I to sell it online as it's not as cut and dried as some of the Poole monograms

It's a very strange shaped A I have never seen before. I would date the piece to 1970 because it looks to have that orange sunburst glaze that I believe was only used in that year.

Quick question

I remember reading somewhere that the impressed triangle mark that you get on some of the early studio pieces -usually the ones with the TV mark - was made by Guy Sydenham to denote his pieces and was made with the end of one of the tools he used.

Does anyone know where this comes from ?

I never found the source and have also read that it is not true so I keep an open mind

the story went as follows
'it was used by Guy because he was not allowed  by Poole pottery to use a potter's mark' but I have seen the mark used on a piece marked with the Tm for Tony Morris which makes me wonder about the whole thing

Hi Dan
Annoyingly I've believed the story without really questioning it. Someone is buying a piece of mine through my website and asking about the attribution and I'm struggling. I thought it came from A Potters Life but that seems to be a false memory.

The only other thing I can think of is that a triangle is listed in the Haywood books as being a mark for a trial piece. However I've owned a lot of studio pieces with the impressed triangle mark so they cant all be trials. So I'm not sure what to think.

the Potter's life books show all of Guy's marks so the absence of the triangle makes me even more sceptical

I think the triangle in H&A relates to CSA era pieces. As I understand it the triangle mark on studio pieces is not definititive proof that the piece is by Guy Sydenham, however, for TV period who else was throwing vases, bowls etc. I had a potential customer once who only wanted early TM pieces if signed by Tony, when I showed him written and signed provenance from Tony for an early bowl that said they were not allowed to sign their work initially he still wasn't interested so there is no pleasing some people.

I should have mentioned that the 11" shape 6 studio bowl did have the impressed triangle mark, and don't forget that Tony was a decorator and not a thrower so studio pieces can have both triangle ( applied to unfired clay when just thrown ) and TM mark

finally got my 49er clock up and running .

ppcollectables wrote:I should have mentioned that the 11" shape 6 studio bowl did have the impressed triangle mark, and don't forget that Tony was a decorator and not a thrower so studio pieces can have both triangle ( applied to unfired clay when just thrown ) and TM mark

interestingly, I have one studio piece with the TV mark, Guy's "GS" mark and Tony's "TM" mark.

But, in general terms, a large percentage of the TV studio vases I've had have had the impressed triangle. My logic goes like this:

1. If it is on a large number of TV mark vases, then it can't be a trial mark.
2. If it's not a trial mark, then it must be a throwers mark
3. If it's a throwers mark, then who else but Guy was throwing the very early studio vases - I don't think there was anyone else, was there?

I suppose one check is whether anyone has a piece with both the impressed triangle and the "GS" mark. If both appear on one item it would strongly suggest that it's two different people.

One other thing - I'm not sure that I've ever seen the triangle or a GS mark on a piece with the later Studio marks.