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Post by dantheman May 9th 2010, 6:20 pm

you're probably right but emails are free....

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Post by flying free May 9th 2010, 6:41 pm

ok, I'll give it another go - I'll let you know.
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Post by flying free May 15th 2010, 11:21 pm

No reply at all to my second one either so I guess not sadly.
A friend (with no experience of pottery and not even that interested :) ) thought it may be Russian just as an instinctive thing, so I may have a look in that area.
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Post by dantheman May 16th 2010, 10:05 am

I would stick to info that has credible credentials if I were you m,instinct tends not to be enough when researching specialist subjects

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Post by flying free May 16th 2010, 10:50 am

yes you are right Dan, I was just musing and it seemed a possible avenue to perhaps look at. I'm sure I will find out one day who made it. But I have searched a huge list of potters and their images whilst searching for this and the Oriental style pots on my other post and nothing, so I think it may be a long wait large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 314189
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Post by dantheman May 16th 2010, 10:55 am

if it were mine (a nice thought) I would concentrate on Italian pottery producers

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Post by dantheman May 16th 2010, 11:08 am

the similarity with Rigon pottery may be a clue,potters in his area of Italy ,especially those who have worked with him may be a good place to start

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Post by flying free May 16th 2010, 11:38 am

Right, many thanks Dan, good advice.
I shall come back to you at some point if I find anything out. Or rather, thinking positively, when. Thanks again, I really appreciate the help and information/advice I have been given on here.
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Post by dantheman May 16th 2010, 11:47 am

good hunting m

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Post by flying free July 4th 2010, 11:54 pm

Just an update here. I contacted Walter on the Italian Pottery forum and he feels it isn't Italian. He said it was fine to post his comments here. I have quoted them so as not to misrepresent -
'I love this piece but it most likely was not made in Italy. The markings on the base are not consistent with that used by Italian potters. If the second letter along the edge is a "W" then you can almost certainly rule out Italy. "W" was one of the letters not used in the Latin alphabet and is rarely seen in Italian writing.'

I think the second letter could well be a W, or a back to front N possibly? So, could my friend be right about Russian, or might that be worth investigating further?
thanks again for your interest.
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Post by dantheman July 5th 2010, 1:55 pm

Interestiner and interestinger!
This one has fascinated me from the start,please remember to let us know if ever you solve the puzzle,even if it takes years

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Post by flying free July 6th 2010, 7:01 pm

will do, but you could be waiting a long time large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 466571
I recently bought a little dish that I think is Spanish that is completely decorated with this enamel type glaze (I hope that is the right description...probably not), so I started searching for possible Spanish potters but there seems to be a dearth...or perhaps I'm just not searching in the right place/with the right words.
I'll post a pic of the dish separately.
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Post by flying free July 6th 2010, 7:33 pm

So I think this technique of enamelling is called Cuerda Seca. This link provides a better explanation and also some links to artists on the left side. If you click on the artists some pottery work of theirs comes up and it is pretty beautiful.

http://imagineartisan.com/index.php?main_page=cuerda_seca

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Post by flying free July 6th 2010, 7:38 pm

Dan, have a look at these

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I smell victory very close!
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Post by dantheman July 6th 2010, 7:45 pm

the close up of the decoration may help

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Post by flying free July 6th 2010, 8:05 pm

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Post by dantheman July 6th 2010, 8:15 pm

It looks dissimilar to the close up on the website large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 466571

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Post by flying free July 6th 2010, 8:25 pm

this is another set of their work

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I'm with you in that it may not be identical and the same maker, however the technique on my jug is cuerda seca I am pretty sure, and the idea of the very stylised work is similar. So, possibly a Spanish maker for mine is what I am thinking.


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Post by dantheman July 6th 2010, 8:37 pm

the same technique as your Granada plate!

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Post by dantheman July 6th 2010, 8:58 pm

flying free wrote:So I think this technique of enamelling is called Cuerda Seca. This link provides a better explanation and also some links to artists on the left side. If you click on the artists some pottery work of theirs comes up and it is pretty beautiful.

http://imagineartisan.com/index.php?main_page=cuerda_seca

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does this post belong in this thread?

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Post by dantheman July 7th 2010, 6:26 pm

flying free wrote:My apologies Pip and thanks for taking them off, I wasn't aware and just got carried away by finding something large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 212118 . Dan did you mean the vases I linked to were the same technique as the Granada dish or did you mean my vase is the same technique as the Granda dish.
I can see there are differences but I thought my jug was also this technique. Are you saying it isn't the same? Oh dear, I thought victory was close large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 677383

I think both items may have been made using dry cord technique m but have you read that the sandy items in your link were made in that way?

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Post by dantheman July 7th 2010, 6:45 pm

if you pm the link to me I'll take another look,I didn't read all the info before Pip deleted the link large jug/vase very stylised, sandy texture glazed decor to front only - Page 2 Icon_rolleyes

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Post by flying free July 7th 2010, 8:11 pm

will do in a mo
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Post by flying free October 26th 2010, 11:32 pm

possibly way off beam here, but I've been searching for this periodically and something that struck me was the similarity with Czech amphora vases. Is it possible this maybe a Czech vase. It seems to be in a similar technique to the Amphora pieces I have seen but perhaps not the same earthenware used? Any thought? right track maybe?
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Post by flying free October 26th 2010, 11:37 pm

link to an amphora vase example
http://www.treadwaygallery.com/lotInfo.php?i=2784
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