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Re: Winchcombe Pottery
Not seen a mark with two dots before. It’s standard ware so it wouldn’t normally have a personal stamp unless Ray made it. I suspect it was just a flaw in the stamp or a couple of dry bits of grogg stuck to it
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Yes, although the dot mark is normally somewhat more prominent and a little further down. But he did lots of slight variations.
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I think there’s some doubt. Finch’s P extends further above the W, and the dot is clearer. This might just be a bit of clay or glaze on the surface.
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NaomiM wrote:I think there’s some doubt. Finch’s P extends further above the W, and the dot is clearer. This might just be a bit of clay or glaze on the surface.
I tend to agree. The dot is usually more obvious, and further down from the W. Compare with the many examples here:
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t12595-ray-finch
Notwithstanding, it's still a lovely vase.
Winchcombe Pottery - Neil Alcock (not Nina Davis)
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Just had a reply back from Neil Alcock to say it's his ND mark on the Winchcombe pots, not Nina Davis. And he's still using the same stamp (which probably accounts for the bit of rounding at the edges of the letters).
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Nice piece. But then that is exactly the secret of Winchcombe's continuing success over near 100 years. Their remarkable level of very high quality sustained over a long period. Because of that quality it is nice to think that it might be by Ray Finch. But he was a smart business man, and knew the value of his personal imprimatur. The idea that he 'forgot, to sign pieces seem a but tenuous.
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The Winchcombe Pottery is and was fundamentally a pottery that by and large produced functional pots in a limited number of patterns for use, this being one of them.
Most of the pots that Ray made during his many years at the pottery would have just had the pottery mark and sold as such.
This might or might not have been made by Ray and no one is ever going to know.
Most of the pots that Ray made during his many years at the pottery would have just had the pottery mark and sold as such.
This might or might not have been made by Ray and no one is ever going to know.
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Thanks for your input Philpot & Studio Pots. Whoever made the 8" jug was clearly heavily influenced by Ray Finch as the similarity in style & pattern to the 12" jug is plain to see.
I appreciate I'm never going to know who actually threw the jug but that does not lessen my appreciation of the piece, I think it's a stunner.
Regards,
Jay.
I appreciate I'm never going to know who actually threw the jug but that does not lessen my appreciation of the piece, I think it's a stunner.
Regards,
Jay.
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All the potters at this time would have either trained under Ray or his son, who trained under Ray. They were making standard ranges of wares that were all the same shapes but this a small number of surface decorations. This decoration is one of the glaze/decoration ranges and so there would have been thousands of jugs of this size and with this decoration made over the years, long with all of other function wares with the same pattern.
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I just picked up these 4 slightly speckled sage green Sidney Tustin cups from a well known auction site.
At only 8cm tall they're a little smaller than I'd prefer but for a matching set of pretty much identical cups, they were quite the bargain I think. Each cup is marked with both the Winchcombe mark and the Sidney Tustin 'S.T' mark. For £36 (including p+p) I think I got a pretty good deal.
From what I can gather, Sidney retired in 1978 (which happens to be the year I left school) but as for when he made them, I wouldn't have a clue.
Regards,
Jay.
At only 8cm tall they're a little smaller than I'd prefer but for a matching set of pretty much identical cups, they were quite the bargain I think. Each cup is marked with both the Winchcombe mark and the Sidney Tustin 'S.T' mark. For £36 (including p+p) I think I got a pretty good deal.
From what I can gather, Sidney retired in 1978 (which happens to be the year I left school) but as for when he made them, I wouldn't have a clue.
Regards,
Jay.
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There is a lot more about Sid Tustin on our Winchcombe thread.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t7608-winchcombe-pottery?highlight=TUSTIN
Generally the more popular Sid Tustin stuff are the Earthenware slip decorated pieces.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t7608-winchcombe-pottery?highlight=TUSTIN
Generally the more popular Sid Tustin stuff are the Earthenware slip decorated pieces.
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