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Post by R.Ferrao February 9th 2012, 4:34 pm

I have seen this type of drawing and marks in several different shapes, dishes, bowls and jars with flat coloured lids.
I would like to find out who is the maker.
Thanks, Rita

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Post by big ed February 9th 2012, 4:54 pm

I think the little flower mark was Ronzan

http://www.ceramics.it/marchi/ronzan_en.html
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Post by R.Ferrao February 9th 2012, 5:09 pm

Hi Ed, hope you're fine. Happy
It's true, Ronzan uses a small flower but I never saw pieces similar to this by them.
Normally they have hand painted marks and don't use the pencil for decoration or marking as far as I know.
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Post by big ed February 9th 2012, 5:47 pm

Hi Rita, I'm fine thanks , ok then i'm not sure about the mark , there seems to be plenty about , I think Dave had one recently , they are all done in that child's drawing style , so maybe they are still being made or do you think they date from earlier Shrugs
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Post by R.Ferrao February 9th 2012, 6:09 pm

Yes, I've found several until now but I'm sure they were made in the late 50's or 60's, they all show signs of age. They could have been touristware...

Don't you want to take a look at my "girl with a watermelon sticker"? A rather puzzling sticker I must say. Um...
Maybe you can recognise it.
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Post by Davee February 9th 2012, 11:18 pm

Here is a link to the lampbase with the same style of decor

https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t7716-1950-s-italian-lamp-base-underglaze-crayon

I may be able to solve the mystery of these tomorrow, I know a dealer who has 2 dishes with this crayon decor marked with a flower, but they also have a makers name. I'm going to see him tomorrow so hopefully he still has them.

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Post by R.Ferrao February 9th 2012, 11:28 pm

Hi Davee, your lampbase is beautiiiiiiiful! I want it! Happy
I'll be very grateful if you can solve the mystery.
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Post by R.Ferrao February 12th 2012, 6:33 pm

I've found a similar piece with the initials SOA on the back. Does someone knows what it means?
By the way, Davee, have you solved the mistery?
Thanks, Rita
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Post by Davee February 12th 2012, 7:27 pm

I did have a look at the dishes Rita, the flower mark was impressed with lettering around it that was not that clear, it read something like - Quadui & aglia. Maybe someone will recognise this.

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Post by R.Ferrao February 12th 2012, 8:15 pm

In Italian "Quattro Lascia" means four leafs, and they use the four leafs clover as a symbol, could it be the name of the company??... Um...
Just a thought, I will make some research.
Thanks Davee.
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Post by Davee February 12th 2012, 9:05 pm

sorry for the poor picture quality, they were taken on my phone

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Post by R.Ferrao February 12th 2012, 9:39 pm

Many thanks! Smush
It seem like "Il Quadri foglia"
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Post by R.Ferrao April 6th 2012, 2:27 pm

The name of the company is:

"Il Quadrifoglio"

Apparently it started in Florence at the end of WWII in viale Edmondo De Amicis 95.
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Post by Davee April 6th 2012, 6:53 pm

Mystery solved Most Excellent

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Post by vanmann April 8th 2012, 3:21 pm

I think that this is probably the same maker, and have now found a similar piece (Vodka rather than Brandy) attributed to Il quadrifoglio on eBay. Any thoughts pleaqse ontext on base of this piece. John

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Post by R.Ferrao April 9th 2012, 1:02 am

It seems the mystery is not completely solved, after all Sad
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