Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Two pieces with a metallic glaze. The tallest is about 20cm...
cycladelic- Number of posts : 577
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Bretby Pottery Vase - Can anyone supply any info?
Hi All - hope someone can help. I found this Bretby Pottery Vase in one of our local auctions in the North West of England but can only find scant information about Bretby. There is no number on the base simply the Bretby impressed stamp which (according to the little info I have found) could mean it is a very early example. It has a simply 'copper' glaze but that looks as if it has been unevenly applied (or maybe with age has faded at uneven rates?). Quite large at 27 cm tall x 18 cm wide at the widest part and weighs in at almost 2 kgs. I'm afraid that's about I can say but if anyone can fill in any more information (date etc) it would be much appreciated. Thanks
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seandux- Number of posts : 125
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
The "rising sun" mark was first registered in 1884, but used throughout the
production of the pottery.
They used all sorts of glazes, but I would tend to towards an Oxblood
vase, probably early 20thC. A nice large piece.
I will move it to the Bretby thread eventually.
production of the pottery.
They used all sorts of glazes, but I would tend to towards an Oxblood
vase, probably early 20thC. A nice large piece.
I will move it to the Bretby thread eventually.
Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
The type of design would normally nudge it to the between 1905-1920 when this type of glaze was most in fashion. Companies like Ruskin, Pilkington, Bretby, Ault all had ranges. Mid 1920's onwards things change with Art deco's paler colours.
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Help identifying twin handled vase - Bretby
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Nitram- Number of posts : 2
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
It might be a Bretby stamp
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Similar marks to the one on my Bretby mug
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t18319p25-bretby-art-pottery-derbyshire#169136
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t18319p25-bretby-art-pottery-derbyshire#169136
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Many thanks for pointing towards Bretby, much appreciated, I will look into. What does having a number marked on the base mean please?
Nitram- Number of posts : 2
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
It’s usually a pattern number, and the letter at the end might be a size code.
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Sorry it was the washed out colour that threw me.
A lot of this pre-war period of Bretby was cold painted over the glaze.
It does flake off and discolour, particularly the matt black they used a lot,
which may have happened here.
A lot of this pre-war period of Bretby was cold painted over the glaze.
It does flake off and discolour, particularly the matt black they used a lot,
which may have happened here.
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smartee- Number of posts : 2
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
It would appear to be Bretby, though that specific mark is not shown
in the Bretby book.
May be made for a wholesaler/retailer, like the Denby wall ducks, which
were never marked as Denby.
in the Bretby book.
May be made for a wholesaler/retailer, like the Denby wall ducks, which
were never marked as Denby.
Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
this is the middle size 10.25 inches apparently. thanks again.
smartee- Number of posts : 2
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Never seen the model or the mark. Pattern #1348 was introduced in 1901.
Maybe there wasn't quite enough space on the base to use the standard
impressed stamp, so someone has had a go at incising it instead.
Maybe there wasn't quite enough space on the base to use the standard
impressed stamp, so someone has had a go at incising it instead.
Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
But these were surely mass production pieces of fairly low value? Incising like that would take much more time than a stamp. So it does not really make any economic sense.
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
I would assume they were in the first trial run of the design. After which they probably made a smaller stamp.
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Which of course would make it something extra special!
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Help identifying maker of three handled vase, Bretby
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Possibly says ENGLAND, Maybe an obscured rising sun above.
Could be Bretby pottery, they did this metallic finish.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t18319-bretby-art-pottery-derbyshire
Could be Bretby pottery, they did this metallic finish.
https://www.20thcenturyforum.com/t18319-bretby-art-pottery-derbyshire
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Bretby was my first thought too. I’ve seen a few of their pieces with this glaze and made to look like dented cast iron vessels
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Re: Bretby Art Pottery - Henry Tooth & Co. Ltd
Yes it's in the Bretby book. Introduced in 1905, the range is called "Copperette",
These oddly shaped pieces were known as "quaints". The shape No 1670 fits that date also.
These oddly shaped pieces were known as "quaints". The shape No 1670 fits that date also.
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